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Doesn't seem legal.
Via Miami Herald
The NCAA has delivered a new and disturbing ultimatum to numerous former University of Miami football players: Either talk to us or we’ll believe Nevin Shapiro’s claims against you.
The NCAA last week mailed a letter to former players that allegedly committed NCAA violations by accepting gifts from Shapiro, including dinners, prostitutes, trips to nightclubs, cash and other perks. Shapiro told the NCAA that 114 players committed violations; Yahoo previously identified 72 of them.
Only players who were playing college football at the time the investigation was launched are required to speak to the NCAA. Thirteen current or former UM football players did so in 2011. So the players who were sent the letter last week are no longer playing college football; some are in the NFL.
The letter, which I obtained, gives the players a Friday deadline to speak to the NCAA. What’s surprising is that the NCAA states in the letter that it will conclude the players committed violations if they do not respond.
UM officials were privately hopeful that many of the allegations made against players who left UM several years ago cannot be corroborated. Unless the NCAA is bluffing, it appears it might take Shapiro’s word on these claims unless the players refute them.
In recent days, several players and their attorneys have been trying to decide whether to speak to the NCAA. Even Tuesday, one said he's not sure what he will do. So it’s unclear how many players will speak to the NCAA.
Here’s how the letter to one player attorney reads:
"The purpose of this letter is to apprise you that the NCAA enforcement staff is requesting to schedule an interview with your clients regarding their knowledge of or involvement in possible NCAA violations concerning the University of Miami, Florida, football program.
"Interviewing your clients is important in order for the enforcement staff to conduct a thorough investigation, and both the staff and the institution request you and your clients’ cooperation in this matter. However, at this time, all attempts to schedule and execute interviews with have been unsuccessful. As a result, this letter serves as a formal and final request by the NCAA enforcement staff for interviews with to be completed by Nov. 23, 2012.
“If we do not hear back from you or your clients by that time, the staff will consider the non-response as your client’s admission of involvement in NCAA violations. You may contact me at in order to arrange this interview. Your assistance in this matter is appreciated.”
No I did not lose a sig bet, but I am really really really ridiculously good looking.
Bruce Feldman @BFeldmanCBS
Compliance expert: NCAA giving ultimatum to ex Miami players a “desperate” move; “to cover their investment”
Nothing the NCAA does is legal. Welcome to SC world
At least people in Miami know how to evacuate.
Everyone applauded when they threw out the rules when dealing with PSU. Now it's your turn. I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. Don't worry though. I'm sure Mark Emmert is a man of honesty and integrity. It should all work out just fine.
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This a great news for Miami, after 20 months of investigation it clear the NCAA giving ultimatum to ex Miami players is a desperate move to cover their investment. Miami will sue them big time and win.
Child rape > boats and hoes. But I think this has lawsuit all over it IMO.
Lawsuit? Who is going to sue whom? And upon what legal basis?
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I agree. IF the program at PSU needed to be punished, I think they got it right, but I didn't like the Roger Goodell type approach to it then and unfortunately that has now set a precedence for other cases.
You're joking right ?
Yep they get in their boats and go back to Cuba
Miami is screwed.
Please don't continue, you're giving the good people of Louisiana a bad name
I don't see the issue. They are requesting to speak with clients. If they refuse to cooperate, they will assume admission of guilt. If there is no guilt, why not cooperate?
Sounds like the NCAA is trying to get somewhere on this. What is wrong with that?
No. Please tell me. Who is going to sue whom? What is the basis of the lawsuit?
I don't know how people don't get this yet. If you have plyers or former players that don't cooperate with the NCAA they will take the word of the other accusers.
Cubans = cigars
French = list goes on forever
But then again your cuban
It's pretty cut and dry. The NCAA is prepping the hammer.
So when did extortion become legal and when did the word of billion-dollar ponzi schemer become the truth ?
Yep. Miami fans talking lawsuits are just wishfully thinking. NCAA is giving the players an opportunity to tell their side. If they refuse, its an obvious admission of guilt.
Stay out of a convo your not part of
Yes the word of billion-dollar ponzi schemer.
It's not the point. At a minimum, the NCAA should have to abide by its own rules. There was no justification for the NCAA not following its own rules in the PSU case. But if they didn't have to do that in the PSU case then they don't have to do it in any other case. You can't have it both ways.
This isn't the court. They don't have to talk but NCAA doesn't have to have rock solid evidence either. USC got busted because of some shady MFers too. Cooperate with them and it will go a lot better for you usually. Don't and you will most likely get screwed. Pretty simple.
I don't agree with them using the word of a convict as fact if someone who isn't required to talk to them doesn't talk to them. They should only be allowed to use what they can prove. But the NCAA thinks they are Roger Goodell and do what they want.
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