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Todays technology, Id be asking for pics or something right away, but Im a typical guy that would be trying to get in her pants. Dam I wish this technology was available when I was in college instead of calling from my land line in my apartment
It's not a hoax when you say you have met the person and she traveled to Hawaii and met your father. Stop being a fvcking moron. He is crazy and you and defending a sociopath.
First and foremost let me say, I am not sticking up for the kid yet. I am trying to get the facts before rushing to judgment or forming an opinion. But I have a question about something you have noted twice in this thread.
Your first question here states his family stated they met the fake her. Can you provide a link where they said that? From what I heard they mention that the fake she supposedly flew to Hawaii to meet Manti, not that they met the fake she. Not trying to prove you wrong, just trying to collect my own facts as well.
The rest are questions I also have and hopefully we can know the truth...because the truth is out there....sorry, couldn't resist the X-Files reference because this is what this episode feels like sometimes.
Awwww, look at this, somebody found their "name calling" book. Too hard to have an adult conversation without attacking someone? I know, it's difficult to use words to form valid points of conversation.
By the way, I don't see star defending anyone. I see star stating his/her opinion on what happened just like everyone else on here has done. In fact, if you read closely, star even references in his/her opinion of what happened that Manti handled the situation terribly.
This post was edited by Febiv 18 months ago
Those are all questions that need to be answered. I believe the author even states there are questions that need to be answered. Until those are answered, I will withhold judgement. Now, what reason did he have to make up the story and what reason does Jack Swarbrick have to support him rather if he knows Te'o is lying? Swarbrick is a very smart and successful attorney, there is no way he could think it will not come out if Te'o made it up from the beginning.
Scored 4 touchdowns...in a single game. Polk High!
You might have me on that. I'm going on the word of ESPN talking heads which I very rarely do, but I've heard it from at least four of them. Supposedly came straight from the father's mouth about how she would fly to Hawaii and how much the family enjoyed her company and loved her.
I'm pretty sure that the ESPN talking heads said that they got that straight from the Deadspin.com article. That is honestly one thing that I haven't heard coming straight from Te'o in regards to the rest of my comments. I remember Te'o himself talking about his brother calling him crying over the phone about her death though.
Gene Woja whatever the fvck mentioned that he did ask Te'o about getting some pics of her or speaking with her family and he adamantly shut that down due to the request of "her family" though.
This post was edited by RATT 18 months ago
Anyone that says "I'll wait til the whole story comes out first" is being naive and trying too hard to be politically correct. The point is that the "whole story" won't come out because they are in full denial, prove us wrong mode. That's how ND rolls. Look at recent ND issues for proof. It'd be different had this happened elsewhere. Like Blackistone (sp?) said on ATH yesterday, why would they hire a PI to thoroughly investigate this but not hire one during the rape coverups? They live in a morally superior world and will do anything to protect their self believed image. Anyone with a brain can look at the timeline and see that Te'o and ND were/are hiding something and now its obvious that the university and family were/are involved. They are covering lies with more lies.
According to the original SI article it was the GF brother that called him crying.
It's funny when people ask a question and then answer it in the next sentence.
link to Te'o saying she traveled to Hawaii and met his father.
Man if you believe any of this then god bless you.
I have a piece of waterfront property in Idaho to sell you as well. I'll give you a good deal.
No it's pretty simple actually. Glad you know how to use quotations as well. However, the use of quotations would not be needed in this instance because that is what I was actually doing, it was not meant in sarcasm. Sorry you do not know that.
And also, clearly you have reading comprehension issues so I will try to go slow.
Star stated, "He was dumb and fell for a hoax that a few kids ran on him."
Which means Star actually believes what both Notre Dame and Te'o said.
Notre Dame said in a press conference that Te'o was the victim of a hoax.
Te'o said he was the victim of a hoax.
Star believes what both are saying when he stated, "He was dumb and fell for a hoax that a few kids ran on him."
So, like anyone who knows how to follow a logic argument, that means Star believes Te'o fell for a hoax, when in actuality it was not a hoax because Te'o himself stated he met the girl and that the girl traveled to Hawaii and met Brain Te'o (that's Manti Te'o's father)
So in conclusion it literally is impossible to have an adult conversation with you (as I explained above) and it would be equally impossible to have an adult conversation with Star since Star himself is in denial of what actually happened. (once again follow the logic of the above break down. You cannot argue with someone who is in denial, Star is in denial, he thinks it is a hoax)
So you are claiming ND really did not hire a firm to investigate and that Swarbrick made everything up he said in his press conference? Why would he do that instead of distance the University from the situation? It will obviously come out if he and Te'o are both lying and it is a complete fabrication.
Believe what you want. I was simpy showing where he claimed the GF brother called him crying, not his own brother like you stated.
Has nothing to do with politcally correct and more to do with being a rationale human being. And trust me, I am anything but naive. Te'o is just as much to blame for this scandal as anyone, that is not debatable. He handled it poorly regardless of whether he was complicit from the beginning or found out Dec. 6th.
The only thing that matters now is WHEN he was complicit about it. If it was from the beginning, all a stunt for attention, then he is nothing that any of us ND fans thought him to be. If it was Dec 6th, then I feel he was the naive kid, embarrassed and overwhelmed by the moment, and unsure how to handle it...and IMO, he still handled it poorly.
People are saying he will drop in the draft "if" he lied. Regardless of the outcome he lied either way
Lied about meeting her, talking to her, etc
Lied about not being in on it.
They all said that they didn't meet her, instead he (Te'o) would leave them to meet up with her.
If you think about it, this makes it 10x worse. Who has a girlfriend, that they're madly in love with, that flies to Hawaii, and not one single family gets to see her?
Then, several interviews, Te'o claims that his girl loved his family more than anything in the world. But, she flies all the way to Hawaii and never stops by and sees them when visiting him?
Manti has some serious mental issues, because he actually believes his own lies. Now, he replaces his former comments about having seen her before, with him being hoaxed and that he actually has never met this girl.
Kid is a raging, pill popping, mentally unstable middle linebacker, in training. He needs to bypass the draft and get some serious help.
This post was edited by CRgator1 18 months ago
I do believe that he is FOS and is involved in this. Nothing is going to change my mind on that and we can go around in circles until the cows come home.
Fact of the matter is that everything WILL come to light in the next couple of weeks. Every journalist with brass is looking into this case at this point. I would bet my left nut that it's not going to end well for Te'o.
Direct quote from article.
"Skeptics have also cited comments by Te'o's father Brian Te'o who told a newspaper how Kekua used to visit his son in Hawaii."
Link also attached. It is at the bottom of the first page.
Again, this not a hoax. Te'o is completely full of shit and you cannot defend him.
Notre Dame star linebacker Manti Te'o's fake girlfriend
I know Te'o's dad said that. However, that is not what you claimed now is it. Try again.
So you are under the belief that Te'o does not back his dad's statement before all this blew up?
Put your money where your mouth is. I'll bet you either $100, a month sig bet, or a two week ban bet that Te'o is proven to be an accomplice in this charade within two weeks from today.
I agree, everything WILL come to light in the next couple of weeks
So two questions,
Why not wait until the facts are out before proclaiming him guilty?
You and I both agree the facts will come out. Why would a highly respected attorney like Jack Swarbrick call a press conference and lie when you and I both know the facts will come out? Surely he has to know they will come out as well. What does he have to gain by lying on Wednesday knowing he will be found out to be lying in the next couple of weeks?
You speak so matter of factly, like you are privy to evidence that we are not. Perhaps the kid lied about meeting said girl to cover up an embarrassing thing in his life. Perhaps he lied to his family and it was his family that said how they met. Maybe he was embarrased about falling for a girl via social networks to tell his family how they really met. None of these are plausible to you? If not, then I am sorry, the problem isn't with me. Again, I am not defending him here, just stating that these are plausible events that could explain why he reacted the way he did. Just because you and I would have no issue with telling someone we hooked up with someone online doesn't mean everyone is like us.
Man, just call up ESPN and them know that you are aware of (and I will use your words here) what actually happened! Oh, you mean you don't have proof? You mean you are speculating just like star was based on what is know so far? I see.
And because someone believes something, doesn't mean they are defending it. Star hasn't stated anyone was wrong in their belief even if it was contrary to his/hers. That is what you are doing.
I would bet that if the Tuiasasopo kid came out and said Manti had nothing to do with it, you still wouldn't believe them right?
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