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Is this real life?
Here is a list of the states that have the exact same laws....
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
Other states (Iowa, Virginia, and Washington) have considered stand-your-ground laws of their own.
Well, that's just poor parenting or an uninformed kid. Very stupid.
Fruit usually doesn't fall too far from the tree.
Stupid parents. Not his fault.
I won't set foot in Florida and I wouldn't allow my children to attend school there either. I'm not surprised most of you don't agree.... but you'd do well to try to understand the perspective of black families. The OP is also either ignorant of the differences in the laws in the other states he mentioned or is purposely misleading to argue his position. Michigan's law is the only one that almost perfectly mirrors Florida's. Fortunately Michigan isn't plagued by the same racist attitudes as the southern states. Things like this don't happen so often here....
Still think nothing smells rotten in the state of Florida? Try Roy Middleton, who was was almost killed in a hail of bullets by Florida cops for the crime of being in his own driveway.
This post was edited by DJNiteFlite 8 months ago
Nobody on this board can define the word regression.... but it sure gets used a lot.
Please tell me you are trolling....Nobody can be this stupid. Well, I guess some people can, as his parents are.
Definitely not trolling. I choose not to travel to NYC as well.... stop & frisk is a real threat to black men. Fortunately it's coming to an end. Sorry you lack perspective. I expect a million downvotes considering this is an overwhelmingly white space and anonymous people just love to suppress opinions they don't like..... especially when it comes to race and racism.
You really don't think black parents have any reason to be concerned about Florida and it's justice system?
Walton Henry Butler, 59, obviously didnt work in 2013. The Florida man was arrested on July 30 for shooting 32-year-old Everett Gant in the head, but once in custody he told him - as if it would get him off - that he only shot ...
I can try to understand, but I don't think I'd be able to. I know plenty of Jews who won't go to Germany because of the Holocaust, but I'd have no problem going even though I'm Jewish. I think that is also strange (except in cases where people lost close relatives there, then I completely understand). I don't understand why a black person with absolutely no connection to Trayvon would not want to step foot in Florida strictly because of the incident. If he didn't want to go there because he thought he'd be persecuted as a black person in the state, then I understand. But strictly because of Trayvon and the trial? I don't understand that.
And I'm in the camp that thinks Trayvon was senselessly murdered by a lying POS in Zimmerman.
Ehh, I agree strongly that this board and many places in this country have a severe lack of perspective on race and racism. I wrote all about it in law school and think it's highly trivialized in many places. But I don't really understand how this incident of racism would prevent people from travelling to Florida. There are plenty of incidents of racism, and if it were a combination of many things that were stopping a kid from going to Florida, that's a different story. But one story (as this kid's tweet suggests) stopping a kid from going there is crazy IMO. Especially for parents to push that on a kid trying to make the best decision for his for future.
It isn't strictly because of this incident... it's part of an emerging pattern. I know it's tough to swallow but black children are raised to be aware of the dangers they can face from being mistaken for a criminal. My grandma used to warn me every time there was a wanted black man on the news.... because in her lifetime, and mine for that matter, black men guilty of nothing were often arrested or detained because they "fit the description". It's a very real fear that we have to deal with. I'm very careful at night even on Michigan's campus to go about my business quickly and quietly. I don't linger on porches too long at night if no one answers the door, I refuse to use the fraternity fire escape at night even when asked, I won't even climb through my own house window if I've forgotten the keys. I've had police called on me for less on multiple occasions and once they are involved things can turn bad quickly. My roommate was detained last year for "giving a false name". The name he gave was the same as the one on his 2 state IDs. This is the reality of America. Black parents should raise their children to be aware.
I 100% agree with everything in this post. I have no idea what it has to do with a parent not allowing his kid to consider a Florida school. I hope they don't let him consider Alabama schools, Mississippi schools, Georgia schools, etc. where they have even stronger histories of racism than Florida. Racism is alive and well and poorly understood by most, but that doesn't make this story any less ridiculous IMO.
This post was edited by shavisimo2 8 months ago
They are succumbing to recency bias no doubt.... my not setting foot in Florida is more of a half-assed boycott than anything. But is it really that ridiculous? Parents worry.... it's what they do.
I think so. I understand it, but I find it to be quite illogical and frankly, stupid.
So then why is there an uproar when black kids/ teenagers/adults are profiled because of the way they appear. Especially when they dress or act a way to imitate the image of the ideal American criminal?
This question you've posed is loaded with prejudice. I'm not going to dignify it with a response. You know what.... I guess I will if only to expose it for the utter filth that it is. There is no image of the ideal American criminal. No such thing exists. Criminals come in all shapes, sizes and manners of dress. There is an image that most hold in their mind as the image of a criminal and it is of black and hispanic males. That is why the data on those stopped by the NYPD's stop and frisk comes out as 90% blacks and hispanics. FWIW they found guns in less than .2% of stops and some 88% of detainees were harassed then released without charge. As far as acting like a criminal... I won't even go there. That's just unadulterated racism, pure and simple.
I'm white, and other than South Beach, you couldn't pay me to live in that cesspool of a state.
i would have double tapped dude. guess i'm rassist.
What's more ridiculous is Zimmerman's defense case wasn't even based on the Stand Your Ground law, yet for some reason that's getting blamed for his acquittal.
This post was edited by trojans2015 8 months ago
Only in America can a Hispanic man shoot an African American... and white people get blamed
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This is by far the stupidest crap I've ever heard. Kids parents have weak mental capacitys.
This post was edited by Forrest Gump 8 months ago
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If I told you North Carolina was supper racist would you not step foot in it either? We don't need idiots dumbing up our state.
he's a DJ. leave him alone.
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?
You know why black and Hispanic males were stopped more than white males... Because black and hispanic males crime rates are 100x higher for both races... That's a fact...
Not saying the law is right, or doesn't violate our civil rights, just giving you the facts.
I don't agree with you overall, but I agree with some of your points and, most importantly, I respect your opinion.
As for OP comment on this effecting recruiting, umm, lol. FSU is ranked 4th, Miami is 5th and UF is 11th so far.
And it's a down year in talent overall in the state by Florida standards. I think OP is just trying to stir crap up.
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