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I bet you were a big xii homer just a couple years ago.
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This year? Do they avoid them next year? Nope.
Guess what, next year my team (SC) avoids TAMU, Bama and LSU. My guess is you won't be bitching about the SEC protecting SC next year, since that argument only works against the blue bloods. We go in cycles, every 5/6 years you get a favorable cross-division schedule. Thats life.
The fact is both divisions have 3 good teams in them, so nobody avoided anything.
If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.
Lulz at me being called a Big XII homer.
Yea, you know, since Tech only had the #2 passing offense, #12 total offense and #16 scoring O in the country.
But yea, offense is clearly the problem in Lubbock.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Who really gives an F anyway. Conference loyalty is stupid
Would have been nice if they would have proved it against at least one decent OOC team.
He said Texas Tech had a tough schedule. He doesn't see how the Big12 computer rankings are manufactured by playing no one OOC.
Even with the manipulation, TT only played 3 teams that are in the BCS top 25. Alabama played 3 in the top 10.
I believe the entire Big12 played 6 AQ schools OOC this season.
Haha pot calling the kettle black! Still can't wrap my head around the idea of cheering for a conference, why do you care what the rest of your conference does? I hope EVERY team in EVERY conference loses, besides MY team. In the NFL, I cheer for Dallas but I don't "toot" the NFC East horn when my team sucks and the Giants win the Super Bowl. Why does this theory only work in college football? Some people are just ignorant.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by BaintheA 16 months ago
I can't upvote this comment enough!!!! +++1
You may not agree with it, but why exactly would one be ignorant for doing so?
I would say you are ignorant for not seeing the difference in college and the NFL. No team gets any advantage in the NFL because of their division. It all has to do with their records and a true playoff scenario. In college, teams from the conference that is considered the best are going to be the one-loss team that is chosen over those from other conferences.
There is a perfectly good reason for someone to want teams in their conference to do well. Some do and some don't, but doing so is anything but ignorant.
This post was edited by BetterOff 16 months ago
You guys really need to step back and take a break from this board. You are arguing over Texas Tech.
This post was edited by MrWoodson 16 months ago
He probably saw how much easier it was for the last few guys that left the conference.
Some people can't take the competition....
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
If you win the Big East, does it really count?
Big East >>>>>>>> Big 12. At least using SEC logic
Sure it does. It looks something like this after the Big East championship trophy is given out.
If you look at their accomplishments in OOC play, I wouldn't argue that.
But if you actually watch the quality of football being played, you'd see the Big 12 is a much better conference.
I don't knows. I watched both Pitt and OU play Notre Dame. The middle of the pack team in the BE looked better than one of the top teams in the B12. At some point, you have to believe the results and the B12 hasn't proven anything this year.
I watched that same Pitt team lose by 17 points to Youngstown State, and go down 24-0 to a pitiful UConn team. I like what Chryst is doing there, but you cannot be serious with a post like that. The eye test tells you that the Big 12 is far, far superior than the Big East.
The Big East doesn't even have a top 25 team to finish the season, as the same team that lost to Youngstown State by 17 beat Rutgers.
The College to NFL was simply an example, pick a sport baseball, hockey, etc. The point is conference loyalty only gets discussed in the college football realm, not even college basketball gets discussed in the same terms. The point is the fan bases that I hear "tooting" the horn are typically the bottom feeders of their conference.
What's the "perfectly good reason" for cheering for your conference? Do you win more games because of it? Nope, so why would you care? The only way I can see this logic working is if you plan to fall back on the "well we play in XYZ conference" crutch when your team is subpar.
For one, Louisville is ranked.
Second of all, which eye test are you speaking of? Are you basing your assumptions on what Big12 teams look like against other Big12 teams?
I am basing it off what they did as a conference against AQ teams plus Notre Dame that they played in OOC. The Big12 was horrible in that area with 1 win against a winning team (7-5 Miami).
That is what I look at when judging a conference and the only 2 conferences that had any success were the SEC and PAC12. That's why the B12 is well below that level with the ACC, B1G, and BE to me. The "eye test" is why people thought WVU was a BCS contender a month and a half ago. There isn't really any true substance in it.
College football is subjective. That's why there is a difference. A one loss team in the SEC can still feel comfortable that they will have a chance when the same team in the ACC, B1G, BE, and B12 are basically done. That's why some cheer for their conference. I am not sure why it matters to bottom feeders other than making them feel better about losing. I was just saying there is a reason.
I would say that basketball is a little different, but if your team is a possible bubble team, it would better suit you to be in a better conference as well so you have a chance for more "quality wins" later in the season.
There's no way to disprove your theory until bowl season, but I vehemently disagree that any conference is as bad as the BE. The ACC has Clemson and FSU, and the Big 12 has KSU and OU. Those two teams alone should move them ahead of the BE.
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