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I have watched since the first episode. Great series
I just linked an article that gives an explanation for that, but don't let that interrupt a good troll.
Not expecting you agree with the explanation btw, but just showing you there there is one if you are interested.
This post was edited by TroyTide 16 months ago
Oh no, I read it. It's hilarious.
There is nothing anyone can say that will change your mind, and you have no interest in a discussion. The article is well written and offers an excellent explanation, but since you are starting at the point that anything Christian is dumb and stupid, without even having a passing desire to understand even if disagreeing, there is clearly no point in us having this conversation.
I'm gonna start telling people stories and tell them to pass them on to their friends. Hopefully they won't write anything down for hundreds of years and then try to remember everything they were told word-for-word. Hell, maybe we can translate it into multiple languages. That way it can be understood by more people. An important part of every story may need to be tweaked in order for it to make sense, but that's ok.
I hope it ends up being a nice book.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by wps88 16 months ago
BornToBeRed said: WPS, just a head's up. We might be the most family-friendly board on the network, so take it easy on your normal wps-ness.
"Notice that in a very real sense, all four of the following statements are true: (1) God hardened Pharaoh’s heart; (2) Moses hardened Pharaoh’s heart; (3) the words that Moses spoke hardened Pharaoh’s heart; (4) Pharaoh hardened his own heart."
This is nonsense. Absolute nonsense.
"Notice that in a very real sense, 4 things that cannot happen in the same universe happened in the same universe."
Further, the entire article essentially sets out to disprove that god hardened the pharoh's heart, then punished him and a bunch of innocent people. Then it's conclusion is to point out that (1) is still true.
"In this sense, God is responsible for everything in the Universe"
If this is even remotely true, then the bad things that people (or, even more applicably, nature) do are god's responsibility. Once again, nothing to contradict what I originally said.
Even better, make sure that you write the book before spacing and punctuation, say, 'in Greek', so that in hundreds of years, people have to translate the sentence 'Godisnowhere' could be translated to 'God is now here' or 'God is nowhere' or 'God, I snow here' with perfect validity.
It just isn't worth the effort to try to explain it to him. If you don't believe you can't be convinced.
Was reading through some things and came across this....
All through the ages, man has speculated about life after life. Dante's Divine Comedy seeks to describe it. Modern medical science has added to the speculation with its study of near-death experiences. Now all kinds of religions offer their theories.
But the greatest evidence of life after life is in the historical evidence that Jesus rose from the dead. Christianity is the only faith founded by a man who died and came back to life. No other religion makes that claim.
Historical accounts of His appearances to His disciples and over 500 at one time, were written within twenty years of the event. His disciples faced martyrs' deaths for refusing to quit preaching of His death and resurrection.
People don't willingly die for something they know is a hoax. The one thing that would have stopped Christianity in its tracks would have been for Rome or religious authorities to produce the dead body of Jesus. They never did. The best evidence of life after life is the historical evidence of Jesus' resurrection.
This post was edited by Jeff4SC 16 months ago
I'm not laughing at the disagreement. I'm laughing at your reply to him. Of all the things you could have said or pics/emoticons to put, you reply with "whatever" lol
I'm not laughing at you; I just thought it was funny.
You posted an article. I actually read it and called you on it. The article doesn't dispute anything I said. God hardened the pharoh's heart, and then killed a bunch of kids since the pharoh wouldn't cooperate.
The 4 things that happened simultaneously (that couldn't have happened simultaneously) are:
1. God hardened the pharoh's heart
2. Moses hardened the pharoh's heart (on orders from god - once again god would be responsible)
3. Moses' words hardened the pharoh's heart (no real difference between this and number 2)
4. The pharoh hardened his own heart (contradicts the other 3)
The answer is pretty simple: Viagra
"Modern medical science has added to the speculation with its study of near-death experiences."
Near death experiences come from the brain releasing DMT.
Of course, the easiest rebuttle to the whole 'some people who die see heaven', is, 'Of all the people with near death experiences, why do 100% of them (including the nonreligious) go to heaven? Why has no person ever experienced a near-death situation where they are in hell?'
" Now all kinds of religions offer their theories."
The word you are looking for is 'myth'. A theory requires evidence.
"But the greatest evidence of life after life is in the historical evidence that Jesus rose from the dead."
What evidence is this?
"Christianity is the only faith founded by a man who died and came back to life. No other religion makes that claim."
Except for Krishna, who rose from the dead in 250 BC. And Buddism, where you are reincarnated.
Well, here's a nice list of religions involving the resurrection.
"Historical accounts of His appearances to His disciples and over 500 at one time, were written within twenty years of the event. His disciples faced martyrs' deaths for refusing to quit preaching of His death and resurrection."
The earliest known written 'historical account' of his death contains no sources and was written, at a minimum, 30 years after he died. In fact, no contemporary historian in Israel wrote about Jesus at all, even though when he died, 'the dead rose from their graves, speaking to many' according to the bible. Seems like something they might have noticed.
"The one thing that would have stopped Christianity in its tracks would have been for Rome or religious authorities to produce the dead body of Jesus. They never did. The best evidence of life after life is the historical evidence of Jesus' resurrection."
The one thing that would have stopped Islam in its tracks would have been for religious authorities to produce the dead body of Muhammed. They never did. The best evidence of life after life is the historical evidence of Muhammed's ascent into heaven.
This post was edited by ramssuperbowl99 16 months ago
Are you really posting wikipedia as an answer to anything? That makes your argument void just for posting that as your answer.
There's more proof of Wikipedia than there is of Jesus.
Evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.
Able to withstand something damaging; resistant.
Make (fabric) waterproof: "the tent is made from proofed nylon".
Most people don't have access to scholarly articles, so I'm not going to post a Nature article where all you can read is the abstract. If you really want verification, you can check out all of the sources at the bottom of the article.
Here's verification of DMT in near-death experiences:
The list of religions with resurrections has many common knowledge type items (I can't imagine I actually have to site the Buddhist or Hindu belief in reincarnation).
It use to be Christians that would annoy people about trying to get people to convert.. Now it's non-believers that take shots at Christianity every single chance they get.
Danielle Hunter, Jamario Rasco, Anthony FREAK Johnson.. DL wrecking crew of 2013.
goes both ways
Not anymore it doesn't. We are always on the defensive, the militant attitude the Left has toward Christians is becoming worrisome.
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