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As a species do you believe we make it off this planet? How long until we have a self sustaining colony elsewhere? Etc.
I think there will be issues that arise over the next 50 years that put this question into full view of most people. At this point there are a couple major technical and technological hindrances. Namely terraforming, propulsion, and issues with spacial radiation.
It's an interesting topic not many people have read up on.
We have to get the funding for NASA rolling again and put someone who fiscally sound to run it. As soon as we get a big time propulsion breakthrough I think we can do it.
Basically we are going from liquid fuel rockets to ion propulsion rockets. I think we are another 2-3 generations away from having the propulsion breakthrough necessary. There's also a distinct chance humanity hasnt reached its new home yet when Earth is no longer habitable. If we find where we are going and it takes 125 years to get there lets say then there's a damn good chance when that crew comes out of stasis they'll get the update that they are the only ones left. Crazy.
I can talk about trans-humanism, future of A.I. and a number of other topics all day.
It pains me that we give NASA so little money. They are putting the successor to the Hubble Telescope up in 2-3 years and it will cost like 6 Billion dollars over 8 years to build. We should be trying to put numerous new techs up there in cooperation with the ESA and China. We need to learn as much as possible as soon as possible. JMO
In theory yes, but we need to actually have some funding for NASA or a private industry breakthrough first.
Time and change will surely (truly) show
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There needs to be more privatizing for it to happen. NASA can only do so much with their budget but private corporations can only do so much with regulations (we can't just let anyone go launching rockets after all).
No, because I haven't seen another planet that could support a colony like Earth does. Gravity is a big thing. Water, fossil fuels, ect...
Although, I wouldn't mind living in a 0 gravity place. How about a 50% gravity place where I could leap the length of a football field? That would be cool. But then what becomes of sports? Kind of need full gravity for sports to work. Could probably create new sports that work with that much gravity.
Fossil fuels? lol.
When we make the jump it will be in large part because we are beyond those. The singular, biggest challenge we face as a species IMO is energy creation/usage/distribution.
In 100 years mankind needs to have everything running off a single atom of dark energy or antimatter or something.
PS: If the answer to this is no you are predicting that the species will die out, likely within, 4-10K years. Every model ever run says it. Not saying that makes you wrong but its an inherent part of that prediction.
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For us to be in our still infant years as a truly technological civilization the company SpaceX is doing remarkable things. The owner/founder/chief engineer Elon Musk was a major inspiration for Iron Man's main character.
So you are saying oil will not be needed in this time. That's fine. I still think gravity and water are big issues here.
Obviously. The habitable zone around every star is the only area we ever search in. It is in the range that liquid water could reside. The unique and utterly remarkable qualities of Earth are only believed to be reproduceable due to the vast, ridiculously vast quality of the Universe.
In the next 50-75 years though these things are PLANNED:
1. Permanent research facility on the moon
2. Permanent colony on Mars (supplied constantly)
3. Begin placing telescopes and infrared scopes at Larangian point 2 allowing us to see much further and clearer
4. NUMEROUS probes to be launched
I think the single appropriate use for self-replicating technology is in Space probes. Imagine in 25 years we launch 4 space probes that reproduce themselves every, let's say, 30 days. They have super human intelligence in their A.I. and analytical skills. I'm not excellent at math but after 2 years there'd be like 100,000 of them scanning the entirety of the Milky Way galaxy.
What about oxygen? Nobody is going to wear oxygen tanks nonstop so they can live on mars.
James Webb 'Scope
Ha, we'll never make it to another habitable planet if we're still relying on fossil fuels.
There are giant rings out there that support human life. But these rings have the power to destroy the universe, so we must be careful.
There is extremely valid reasoning behind us never making it off. Based around the Fermi Paradox and what's been best summarized by the great filter. Basically, the fact that the universe isn't already just a vast interconnected community suggests there is a major bottleneck that occurs at some point along the evolutionary line between the creation of life and interplanetary colonization.
Great read for the thinking man.
Is there really nothing in between multi-cellular life and tool using animals with large brains?
Propulsion is certainly the biggest obstacle for colonizing Mars(which should be our first objective) but for true galactic exploration I don't think any amount of "propulsion" will get us too far. The universe expands faster than the speed of light so any attempt to explore it will take some form of space/time manipulation...not like worm holes or anything but a way to neutralize the effects of mass.
I read and watch documentaries about this all the time
Not really when you are keeping things that macro.
I think that's a thread all its own, if you had to say where a single great filter exists in that list where would it be.
Off the top of my head I think there are very few, as in less than 1,000, instances in which multi-cellular life has occurred in the universe in it's history. Therefore I believe that's the main filter. I also believe though there is a second one about right where we are now. Something has to be extremely difficult to overcome in order to get through and past technological adolescence. It must have been the demise of at least 10-25 other civilizations similar to our own.
Or is there a straight up bustling multi-planet, multi species community out there, straight out of Star Wars, and we are just in a back water area of the solar system that they havent bothered to check out?
What's your thoughts on "Great filter"
I don't even know brah, Im not smart enough for this kind of talk and have to keep it real on that front
I do find it all incredibly fascinating, but its all way over my head so to speak
Have you seen " design by future " ? kind a cool look at the could be future on this planet that I also find incredibly interesting, both topics get about 4 hours a week of thought and viewing/reading for me
But I literally can't have a conversation about it without sounding like a total jackass, good thread though
'Life' is expected to develop under any circumstances, I think the largest bottleneck being between single cell and multi cell organisms. I believe single cell life has at one time been all over the galaxy and could've easily died out already since our sun is so young in terms of stars . Once multi cell organisms form, which you guessed to be less than 1,000 ever, it's only a matter of time before they become intelligent life so there has to be a smaller second bottleneck we haven't hit yet. I can see manipulating space/time as being rather difficult for any specie of life.
We'll find a mass effect object likely withing 150 years that propels the human technological evolution exponetially until a military brat has to fight off these mechanical beings called reapers to allow our continued domination.
This is what will likely happen IMO.
They already have the propulsion system & technology to travel to mars & beyond & have been doing it for decades. The "Black space Program" has been to places we can't even imagine. The U.S Government has had the technology since they reversed engineered what they found out in the N.M desert back in 1947.
Look up Cold Fusion Element 15. They have had this technology for a very long time & it makes all other forms of energy obsolete. It is clean safe & costs nothing.
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