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My cousin was sexually assaulted. She was basically a shut in for a year & a half. She is still messed up a whole 6 years later. Thought she got past it after she got married, nope! She just got divorced & is in therapy. She has & still is a shell of her former self. No way she was or would have been out & about whopping it up at a tailgate. I feel for this young girl because I know & have seen first hand the fall out. The shitty part is, is that no one on here does they just use it as a bash ND topic. Like I said if you all are so outraged take it up with the Indiana St, Police & get something done instead of just sitting at a computer or smart phone whining about it.
How is a rape victim supposed to look?
Many girls are too terrified to bring up charges, and I'm sure there are some who try to act like it never happened.
Saying its not likely a girl was raped because she was seen smiling with friends at an event days after the fact is ridiculous.
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
It would be very screwed up. & heads need to roll if that is the case. Fact is the Indiana St. Police investigated & found nothing. People don't really care about the poor girl. They just use it as a bash ND topic. I get it people hate ND. But to use this as fodder is kind of sick. If they care they should get in contact with The State Police in Indiana & push them to look into this further. But they could care less about that.
As a PSU fan I can tell you that telling people to read the stories and get their facts straight is a futile endeavor.
That being said, even by your account he sexually assaulted a girl and there was no investigation.
I've seen it my man. First hand. & no , she was not smiling a week later. Still not a whole six years later. The only good thing is, that the person who did that to her is in jail for the next 20 years.
There was an investigation. By campus police & the Indiana St. Police. There was an investigation.
How many days after the fact was the investigation conducted?
Memories get hazy very quickly, and people can be persuaded one way or another in the time between the investigation and the incident.
Where any rapist or person who legitimately commits sexual assault should be.
Everybody deals with traumatic events differently. Just because the person you know reacted that way doesn't mean another victim will too.
Fact is, is that it was investigated. You are right though sometimes things can get blurry. No one really knows what happened there. The only people that do is the player in question & the young lady who is sadly no longer here.
This post was edited by 92DT 15 months ago
Fondling is sexual assault I believe, and the two witnesses wouldn't be able to help much because they were gone from the room whenever the incident happened.
Yes class A sexual assault. That is not rape. If it was we'd all be in jail. Unless you are a loser who never got past first base.
No. Just pointing out that there is a pattern. Think long & hard, if it was you or a friend or male relative accused of such a thing by someone who has accused multiple people of the same thing. There are women who do this kind of thing for attention.
No you are ignorant. My post was a comment about another poster who said she did not look like a rape victim, not that she was raped. I never claimed her to be. Just responded to his post about it. Reread my post then come eat crow.
I'm truly sorry to hear that, but people behave differently. Just because she acted like that doesn't mean every person acts like that.
He was accused of sexual assault and there was a poor investigation. However, based on the facts that have been released, there was really no evidence to go on. No marks, no witnesses. A girl and a guy in a dorm room. She accused him of forcibly touching her breast until he was interrupted by the phone and then he stopped. The phone records supported the guys story. Other than that they had nothing to go on.
This post was edited by dpfenny 15 months ago
Scored 4 touchdowns...in a single game. Polk High!
I apologize. With the multiple trolls pretending outrage and claiming rape I assumed you were falling for their claims.
Unfortunately, nobody truly knows what happened with Seeberg.
However, there are multiple things that ND could do/have done about it. First of all, the police could have started on the case much sooner. IIRC, she committed suicide in the lull between when she submitted the complaint and when the police got around to asking questions about it.
Second, ND and its fans could stop this misguided, often blatantly false, and low attempt to dishonor Seeberg. It's really sad.
Third, the ND community could stop harrassing women who are raped. Based on what I've read, these women have been bullied for decades. A woman in 2011 supposedly had hundreds of text messages sent to her saying not to mess with ND football, and Seeberg got the same messages. ND supposedly threatened a woman in 1974 and already had a smear campaign ready for her as well. No matter what happened - how can that be an acceptable way to think and act for ND?
Yes, I know what PSU did was awful (because apparently the best defense for ND fans is to attack the school I root for, rather than address potential concerns of their own), but whatever happened...I would hope that people would learn from it. There seems to be a culture at many schools of brushing this sort of thing under the rug, but thanks to the Seeberg case, ND is at the forefront.
Have to cut and paste the link.
Bump for the rape cover up
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