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And that is the reply that you normally get. Saban's sucess makes it impossible to have an unbiased discussion about anything other than sunshine, rainbows, and unicorns.
God, give me patience today. If given strength I may beat someone to death.
Right after signing day I posted something about how amazing this class could have been, just thinking about how ridiculous if we could have gotten Nkemdiche, Tunsil, Conner, and Vanderdoes. Got crushed.
I was just talking hypotheticals about how close we were to possibly making that happen, which would have been 9 5 stars I believe and it wasn't like any of those were far fetched (maybe excluding Nkemdiche).
It's the most annoying thing in the world. What's so wrong with honest discussion?
It's not just football either.
Until very recently, you would have gotten crucified for criticizing Grant as well. Hell, people were defending Gaspard last season still!
I got crushed for questioning Saban taking Ely and now it looks like he's transferring. I got crushed for saying that Saban was hurting Blake Sims by moving him around, and guess what's gonna happen again... We back off some of the recruits we did last cycle, but take McLeod and have 6 QB's on roster as of right now????
I remember your thread well and was spot on. It wasn't even critical and you got smashed. TR got crushed for his Milliner thread, and he wasn't even being critical of Milliner. Only a few people had enough reading comprehension to figure it out.
AJ might not be as well-spoken as Greg McElroy was, but that doesn't mean he is bad at speaking publicly. I generally like it when the media interviews him. Also, I think you are confusing being a douche with confidence. Plus, out of all the QB's we have had in the past 7 years, Greg, IMO was the worst. He was definitely the least talented of the bunch, and that isn't even debatable. I think that if JPW or BC had played on a team that was half as talented as the ones that Greg played on, they would have done much better than Greg did. I know that Greg had his moments (09 Sec Champ Game), but overall I think his career was very average. But I do agree with you about the way he carries himself. He always represented UA very well.
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That's what really sealed it for me (when everyone down voted and criticized TR). He's a staff member, it's in his interest to be pro-Bama, and he wasn't even trying to be critical, but so many people on there won't tolerate anything other than the idea that all of our players are perfect.
I think that there should be way more of it, eapecially when you can back up your claim with facts. I chalk it up to just being a home board and have resigned myself to just accepting it being that way. I still say what I believe on there though.
We should probably add ex-Bama players success, or lack there of, in the pros. There isn't quite enough evidence yet to be fair but don't mention it. Oh, and don't start a thread about no more auburn threads. I guess you could throw in asking please not say *u, *uburn, awbrenz, or anything else that makes me hear dueling banjos when I read a post
That's my thing with Greg. He was certainly the least talented, and he had some bad games where we almost won in spite of him. But he did have his moments (like the SECCG). He also led the team to its only undefeated NC of Saban's tenure. He was a great leader and teammate. He was a coach on the field more than any of our recent QBs due to his mental grasp on the game.
As far as AJ and the difference between cockiness/douchiness and confidence, I think alot of the behavior (twitter wars, goofy tats, his car, the way he acts at bars around town) clearly falls into the former category. Confidence and swagger are healthy. And as I admitted in another post, he has gotten better. Still, he used to be a big douche and still is a minor one.
just dont attack personally and keep bad language to a minimum
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TR did get it for that, but I also think it is commical when staff gets hammered, so that was OK.
He was right though to some regards. The CB position is important, but it is so hard to judge who can make the jump to the NFL with all the different rules about contact that I think it may become a position that doesn't get drafted as highly over time.
I posted about Malik Zaire's ACT score on blueandgold and even went out of my way to say I didn't doubt his intelligence and was sure he blew away his admissions interview just because he's so charismatic, simply asked if people thought a 20 was a tad low for ND. I racked up about 30-40 dv's in about a day or so and about 4 pages of "who do you think you are?"
This thread sucks
I'll take Greg over JPW everyday, IMO. JPW got rattled easily and had happy feet.
AJ is well-spoken, but there is no denying he was a big douche. He has done a lot to improve that perception, but it was there and for good reason.
Then just have you a six pack of stout and a stick of sensi and get over it!
I dunno man, the team that JPW played on wasn't even close to as talented as Greg's teams. I mean, Greg had 2 first round RB's, one of whom won the hiesman, an offensive line that had numerous draft selections, and Julio Jones. And I'm not even going to get into how ridiculous the defense was. All of that, and Greg was still average and even a liability at times.
IMO, I'm taking John Parker all day. Don't get me wrong though, I would take AJ before any of them, including Brodie.
The defense in 2008 was statistically better in just about every category than they 2010 team.
JPW had a 122.28 passer rating in 2008, including 8 Ints.
Greg was at 140.54 and 168.99 in 2009 and 2010 respectively and had 9 Ints combined in the 2 years.
Also, the running game in 2008 was better than it was in 2010.
Sounds about right. I don't really post much on our board for that exact reason. Can't be honest and must remain politically correct at all times it seems.
Did you notice that one poster started a thread complaining about someone downvoting him all the time??
Why is it on homeboards do people get so offended by getting a downvote. It is obsurd.
Honestly, the only time I ever downvote anyone is when they complain about getting one.
Yeah apparently someone's been following this guy around for a month and downvoting all of his posts.
Then he starts a thread complaining about it.
And then you have posters saying stuff like that's just wrong, we're one big family here on BGI.
Um...no...no we're not. I don't know you and you don't know me and the only thing we have in common is Notre Dame Football. Weird I know...
I was generally talking about 2009, but I still think JPW was better. JPW was just a better thrower if you ask me. It's hard to compare statistics from year to year, and decide who is better based solely on that. JPW was asked to do much more than Greg was in his career. Also, the running game was better in 2008 because people eventually figured out the "put 9 in the box and make McElroy throw it" strategy and that hurt us because he was to indecisive.
One of my favorite quotes can resolve that:
"Don't confuse association with something we both really like."
Makes sense gonna have to remember that one.
There seems to be quite alot of older posters on our board as well. That probably has something to do with it.
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