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Harbaugh yes, Les Miles I'm not convinced.
Still going to be tapping Sparties ass on the reg once Hoke really gets this thing rolling.
Should be interesting to see what Michigan looks like when Hoke has all his guys in there. Their recruit list looks similar to what an OSU recruit list would look like under Tressel besides all the good olinemen. But basically pretty highly rated midwest kids. They currently only have one kid from the south.
I don't think Miles is a better coach, but he's definitely a bigger name that would've gotten more national recruits. He would've brought instant credibility, and allowed Michigan to recruit the south much better. As an OSU and ND fan I would rather see Hoke there than Miles.
Wait.. So you're a ND fan AND a Buckeye fan, yet you are levelheaded? Rare sight indeed, but a pleasant one.
We are a rare breed indeed
Demens was a 4 star on other sites and had offers from Wisconsin, Nebraska, Iowa, MSU etc.
Washington also was a 4 star everywhere else and was heavily recruited. - Miami, Tennessee, South Carolina, Clemson
Not saying you're wrong about the talent level. They definitely are lacking and Hoke is doing a tremendous job.
Jake Ryan was just a diamond in the rough. I think Jake Ryan could still be a starter on our D, even if the whole team were Hoke recruits.
If you're a Michigan fan and you say you would rather have Hoke over Miles, you're delusional. Hoke still hasnt won a conference championship, and he wont this year. The hat has won conference championships and has a ring.
Should have lost to Air Force and Northwestern if you wanna play that game.
And Les Miles has been coaching at LSU, while Hoke was coaching at SDSU and Ball State.
Comparing their records and accomplishments in their past is fvcking asinine.
If you are a Buckeye, you are delusional, it's like a pre-requirement.
This post was edited by mriderblue12 17 months ago
I realize, I'm just saying this isn't your typical "Michigan" roster filled with talent. Cupboard is pretty bare.
I'm an MSU guy, and I'm telling you, I'd rather have Miles at U of M then Hoke.
Is Miles better? Perhaps, I'd even say probably so. He recruits well to his school and coaches them up to play in a tough conference in which he has great success.
I don't think Hoke would have the success that Miles has if Hoke was coaching in the SEC. That's an opinion, but I feel very strongly about it.
Here's the kicker: I don't think Miles would have the success Hoke EVENTUALLY will have at Michigan.
Here's why: Miles wouldn't just have come to Michigan as Les Miles, he would have come to Michigan with a ton of baggage attached. I dont' know that he would have got much more cooperation from the Michigan Mafia then Rich Rod did. I know he burnt some bridges up there, you all probably know the reasons, so I won't rehash them here. To be successful at Michigan you need the administration, the Alumni and the Mafia all pulling in the same direction, I dont' think Miles would have enjoyed that.
Hoke, on the other hand is pretty much universally loved by all Michigan people. Hell, my father who is so anti-uofm said to me this weekend after Hoke showed the emotion fo a close victory "you know, I really like that guy". It's a fact. Hoke might not be as good of a coach as the hat, but he Would never have got Mattison to come down to LSU with him. He's got a very good staff, and from all things heard, they all like each other a lot and it appears they work well not only with each other, but with the old staff ( and one ex coach in particular that would have made Miles life miserable at Michigan).
In conclusion: Miles is probably a better coach then Hoke. Hoke would/will have more success at Michigan than Miles would have had.
Well said, +1.
Miles banged the wife of ex-coach Michigan Coach Gary Mueller for those not in the know BTW. A lot of people hate him because of it, including Lloyd Carr who for whatever reason if he doesn't get his way will stamp his feet and create a cancerous environment for the Coach. Happened for Rich Rod, and probably would have happened with Les.
Hoke > Miles for Michigan. Miles might be the better Coach (I don't think that will eventually be the case), but Hoke is a much better fit for Michigan.
Doesn't surprise me that immature Buck fans, and SEC fans cannot acknowledge that.
Miles might be the better coach? Im not sure if you're just messing with me or not. Im guessing Hoke is a better coach than Urban too, right?
Miles makes some headscratching decisions constantly. He gets his kids to play hard for him, and he recruits well; he also has an all-star staff, many of which I'm convinced (stay in SEC country likely wouldn't have come to Michigan.
Hoke and Mattison > Miles IMO.
Lulz at fugging losers like you coming in and pumping Meyer in a thread that has nothing to do with him. How are his health issues? Lulz.
Everyone except for Michigan fans knows that Miles is better.
I don't understand how you can even say that Hoke is better, he has never won anything at any level of CFB EVER
Steve Spurrier is a God, and Mark Richt worships him
Obvious troll is obvious. C'mon man, 11-2 first year, 7-3 this year with losses to #2 and #4. Other loss to #14. Can't believe you roped some of these jokers in.
Yeah, I mean, I also heard that Sugar Bowls really don't count as anything at any level of CFB.
Hoke is better for Michigan. If you can't get this concept through your head you are a fugging dumb@$$.
Hoke has never been at a job anywhere where it was possible to win big. He was coaching at two programs that are traditionally dog chit, what are you expecting from him? He turned Ball(s) State into a team that won a school best 12 games, he turned around SDSU and won their first bowl game in 40+ years. So I'd say he's done well considering he took two programs to unprecedented heights.
I'd also reiterate the fact you have proven to be incapable of discussion. Why the fugg did you start this thread if you were just going to stamp your feet and demand Michigan fans admit "MILES IS WAY BETTER THAN DOGCHIT HOKE"? You weren't looking for discussion, you were looking to be a pole smoker and you succeeded.
You are a chitty poster and I hope you get aids.
What did Miles do before inheriting the program that Nick Saban built at LSU?
Miles has done a good job recruiting in a hotbed of talent. However he's not a good game day coach.
Regardless if this is a troll or not, this guy is a huge turd and sucks azz at posting. Definitely a big league tool, and hilarious that any Georgia fan is talking chit. Richt is an absolute joke and hasn't won anything of substance, congrats on division titles while Florida is down. Enjoy getting buttraped again in the SEC championship.
Health issues? They seem to be fine with his team 10-0, soon to be 12-0. LULZ
You think you are going to win out. How cute. Better beat Wisconsin with their 10th string QB, before you can even think about UM.
All for naught, that's what happens when you cheat all the time. Amirite?
That story worked back when Miles first got there, now what? He has been to 2 MNC games and won 1.
Miles has won the conference several times. Hoke has never won any conference he has ever been in, EVER. 10 years of head coaching and has never won a conference? Thats like Derek Dooley, I have no idea how that dude got the Michigan job with his resume.
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