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Why is college football going to a selection committee to choose the top 4 teams? Why not keep the BCS 1/3 computers and 2/3 polls to determine the top 4?
because the BCS is shiz....especially the rankings. Harris Poll is a total joke. coaches poll is done by SIDs who can't come close to making educated opinions. Computer formulas have zero transparency and are neutered by not being able to take into account margin of victory (per BCS rules).
Will be interesting to see how the selection committee is formed and how it operates. I'm more than willing to give it a chance before questioning it since the the BCS currently is an abortion.
Great question... It's because their can't be nearly as much corruption if a computer picks the teams.... Conference commissioners and University Presidents wanted to make sure they'd be able to buy their way into the game if they were sitting right on the cusp.
because the SEC is the only conference that actually likes the BCS ranking system
Well it got them what they wanted last season, a no lose situation.
Looks like another perfect day.
Yep. If you're scared of the selection committee its either because your team has a name that will draw viewers making you at a better position in the BCS (see sugar bowl last year) and your scared to actually go out and earn a spot on the field.
nothing to do with it... People take handouts. that's my only reason for not likin a committee vote
Would you honestly have preferred that Stanford be in the playoff over Oregon, despite Oregon winning the PAC12 and beating Stanford head-to-head, just because Oregon decided to play and lost to LSU?
So do other conferences believe that is why the SEC has dominated the past 6 years? Don't forget that other conferences have been the NC game except last year but couldn't beat the SEC team they played
What sanctions? Our 75 are better than your 85.
This. A committee can take into consideration a variety of factors that the polls can't. That includes crap like Wisconsin getting a huge bump for putting up 83 points at home against a crappy Indiana team.
If you remove the Harris Poll from the equation, I believe Oregon would have been in the top 4 teams... the Harris Poll is what's skews the BCS ranking.
The BCS formula certainly needed some tweaking... It needed to take SOS into acct more than margin of Victory... I've heard an argument for an RPI system and that also made a lot of sense...
All polls and equations have their strengths and weaknesses. Why not provide a committee of people with all these tools and let them weigh them as they see fit? That's the most fluid and balanced way to do it.
Too many teams and too few games for an RPI system in college football. It works decently well in college hockey but is a little weird because you are always rooting for other teams that you beat, even very bad ones, to beat teams that other schools ranked nearby you beat.
Would like the BCS to stay around to be used in a similar way that RPI in basketball is used.
Or the committee can just look at all the separate models and polls while actually watching games and then use all of that data to select the 4 best teams
Am I the only person worried about regional biased on the comittee?
Supposedly it will be a 15 member committee so I would hope they can find a good cross-section of the country.
watching the games would be an excellent start
A selection committee is going to be a disaster, but the BCS rankings were just as flawed. Coaches voting who have no time to watch games and who are biased, and computer formulas that are entirely secret. How do you know there is no corruption in the computer rankngs when they won't let anyone in to confirm the results? They should just use the AP or come up with an objective mathematical ranking system that everyone agrees on (like they do with college hockey).
And the coaches poll, and the computers with their complete lack of transparency. I guess you could say that about the coaches poll too.
Damn I guess that's the whole thing.
I have no problem with a selection committee, but I do know fans will still complain.
2009, 2011, 2012 Champs
Because the computer formulas are not made public except for one . . . and that one takes into account your year-end BCS standing from the prior year.
Think about that. Teams change from year to year. Why should you get any credit for what your team did the year prior? The other formulas weren't revealed, so we have no clue if they had similar crazy components or, worse, just contain straight up mathematical errors when they're reported.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Because Jim Delany and Larry Scott got their feelings hurt
Its hard to come up with a good mathematical system when there are 100+ teams that only play 12 games a year. Also the selection committee will pretty much be a microcosm of the AP poll except hopefully with people who know a bit more about football and care less about storylines.
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