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Why do we have the BCS?

  • BamaOnLine

    sf2k4

    We always have the age-old argument of playoff vs. no-playoff in Div-I CFB. I've been wondering for a while though: AFAIK, the NCAA oversees most if not all of the other National Championships in college sports, all divisions both men's and women's, sans Div-I CFB, am I right? I mean, off the top of my head, I know the NCAA sanctions the tournaments (and thusly crowns the champions) of men's and women's basketball, baseball, softball, gymnastics, lacrosse, Div-II/III CFB, you get the idea. My question is this: After the long run of the bowl system, why didn't the NCAA simply do to CFB what they'd been doing or were about to do with EVERY other sport out there and run the tournament? I'm not even meaning did the BCS decide to pay a lot or anything, I'm saying why did they even consider using an outside awarder for the National Championship? I just don't know the entire story.

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  • sf2k4 said... (original post)

    We always have the age-old argument of playoff vs. no-playoff in Div-I CFB. I've been wondering for a while though: AFAIK, the NCAA oversees most if not all of the other National Championships in college sports, all divisions both men's and women's, sans Div-I CFB, am I right? I mean, off the top of my head, I know the NCAA sanctions the tournaments (and thusly crowns the champions) of men's and women's basketball, baseball, softball, gymnastics, lacrosse, Div-II/III CFB, you get the idea. My question is this: After the long run of the bowl system, why didn't the NCAA simply do to CFB what they'd been doing or were about to do with EVERY other sport out there and run the tournament? I'm not even meaning did the BCS decide to pay a lot or anything, I'm saying why did they even consider using an outside awarder for the National Championship? I just don't know the entire story.

    Simple....$$$$$$$$$$

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  • Horns247

    Rivver

    Money and corruption.

  • BamaOnLine

    sf2k4

    But why outsource it is my question. If (a) they knew the system would "work" and (b) they knew the system would make money, why not do it themselves or absorb the BCS as an in-house agency, giving them control and say-so over the end results? We always get into the argument of, "The NCAA doesn't recognize any champions, idiot!" Why do they only not for ONE sport?

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  • Geaux247

    Lesticals

    Power and Money.

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  • IIRC the bowls predate post season play in college. There used to be a few bowl games and as a reward for being one of the top teams in the nation you would get a bowl bid. Before a playoff was a lock to make billions the members of the NCAA decided they wanted to stick with their tradition of going to football bowl games, and Div 1 was given an exception to allow for bowl games instead of forming a tournament. So when people finally began to call for a 1 vs 2 game for all the chips it was done in a way to keep the bowls going and specifically with a few conferences in mind. For the NCAA to force a FBS playoff they would need enough votes, and if they did it over the objection of the power conferences they would be tempting them to pull out of the NCAA which would make playoffs in football and basketball almost worhtless, thus killing the NCAA.

  • osceolafan said... (original post)

    IIRC the bowls predate post season play in college. There used to be a few bowl games and as a reward for being one of the top teams in the nation you would get a bowl bid. Before a playoff was a lock to make billions the members of the NCAA decided they wanted to stick with their tradition of going to football bowl games, and Div 1 was given an exception to allow for bowl games instead of forming a tournament. So when people finally began to call for a 1 vs 2 game for all the chips it was done in a way to keep the bowls going and specifically with a few conferences in mind. For the NCAA to force a FBS playoff they would need enough votes, and if they did it over the objection of the power conferences they would be tempting them to pull out of the NCAA which would make playoffs in football and basketball almost worhtless, thus killing the NCAA.

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  • BamaOnLine

    sf2k4

    osceolafan said... (original post)

    IIRC the bowls predate post season play in college. There used to be a few bowl games and as a reward for being one of the top teams in the nation you would get a bowl bid. Before a playoff was a lock to make billions the members of the NCAA decided they wanted to stick with their tradition of going to football bowl games, and Div 1 was given an exception to allow for bowl games instead of forming a tournament. So when people finally began to call for a 1 vs 2 game for all the chips it was done in a way to keep the bowls going and specifically with a few conferences in mind. For the NCAA to force a FBS playoff they would need enough votes, and if they did it over the objection of the power conferences they would be tempting them to pull out of the NCAA which would make playoffs in football and basketball almost worhtless, thus killing the NCAA.

    Okay, I understand the reasoning for keeping a bowl series that determines a champion, but I still don't see why they decided to outsource the idea. Here's where I continue to get confused: By outsourcing the system to another company, here the BCS, they lose the ability to truly crown the champion. We always see the argument, up until something like what just happened with USC, that even if the NCAA vacated wins, it is the AP and BCS in our current age that determines the champion. Therefore, does that make Div-I CFB the only sport where the NCAA does not have a direct say in who the national champion is? I just don't see why they wouldn't work out a BCS-esque system in house so as to, in the end, have the same say as they do with all their other sports.

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  • Whatever the reasons may be I dont ever wanna see players getting paid, and the only playoff system Id watch is maybe the BCS bowl games' winners...

    Playoffs would completely water down rivalries... Dont people see this? If my team was surely in the playoffs, I wouldnt care as much about the FSU game at the end... Id be to concerned with getting players healthy and things like that...

    Id like the BCS to put a new measuring stick on OOC scheduling... This will end all the playoff talk and satisfy the fans... If the strength of schedule became the #1 deciding factor, we'd see epic matchups week to week... Well, that would be goid enough for me at least...

    Playing lesser opponents would count against u in the rankings... Now, I know in states like South Carolina, I believe, its mandated by the state... So that might be tougher to overcome...

    The one the BCS does is create frenzy on saturdays... This sport is more popular than ever before... Maybe the NCAA should just start rewarding the teams that play OOC gms more and more...

    This will definitely force teams, like my gators, to seek out a USCw or Texas... We'd have playoffs during the season and everyone can keep their rivalries important.