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If people evolved from another creature (whichever one you think) then why are there not creatures that are currently in the in-between stage of evolution? Micro evolution definitely takes place but I can't see the evidence that supports macro evolution. Just wondering if anyone has a good answer or if I'm missing something. Not trolling
I'm pretty sure you are discounting countless pieces of research and information that point to the existence of evolution, by calling it "conjecture".
Shane, you have plenty of scientists on your side as well. Climate change is fact (see multiple ice and warming ages), but man-made climate change is a theory at best. A theory that more and more scientist seem to be doubt. This is not to say that renewable energy, recycling, minimizing waste... are bad things. They most certainly are not, but they should be pursued in a sane and logical way that does not cripple our economy due to knee-jerk reactions from climate change religious believers or politicians ready to use carbon tax as a way to re-distribute wealth.
FYI - I am a registered professional environmental engineer. So I may not be that PhD guy that devotes his life (his paycheck is dependent on drawing certain conclusions mind you) to studying this, I am fully capable of understanding all of the principles.
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We are a in-between stage of evolution.
Every species on this planet is.
That is the whole concept of evolution.
So apes evolved into humans and stopped evolving? Now they are just apes are we are just humans. No in-between stage? I am a Christian but I like to think I keep an open-mind on everything. I just have trouble believing this is possible.
They're kind of repetitive. Not sure we need 10, it's just a "tastier" number.
Evolution takes place over hundreds if not thousands of years.
We are evolving now. Who knows what "humans" will be in 30,000 years.
Why are we getting taller?
Why are red heads disappearing?
Why is diversity converging creating a stereotype of brown eyes, brown haired, mocha skinned humans?
Mutations are being destroyed and created at a exponential pace. We are in the atomic age now and who knows how much this could speed up evolution.
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The only problem with this example and the example of the different kinds of dogs that was used earlier in this thread is that these evolution's are micro and are occurring within the same general species. There has been no concrete evidence to support the idea that creatures have been able to evolve from one to another.
Apes like you see today didn't evolve into humans. Apes and humans both evolved from a shared ancestor (who was probably ape-like but not the apes you see today). That's why there are still apes and humans.
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That's not how evolution works. Saying that humans evolved from apes is a massive oversimplification. At some point in the past, modern humans and modern apes shared a common ancestor. From that ancestor, some members experienced certain advantageous mutations and reproduced to continue those mutations. Similarly, other members experienced other mutations and reproduced to continue those other mutations. This increasing specialization repeatedly took place over thousands and thousands of years, thus further differentiating the two offshoots as time went on.
Evolution is not one currently observable species morphing into another currently observable species. It's one currently observable species morphing into multiple future variations of the same species that may one day differentiate themselves so much as to be considered different species. This is why the dog analogy is apt, due to the concept of the common ancestor.
I was willing to take you seriously up until this point.
So, you have trouble believing that two species that share 98% of their DNA could have possibly had a common ancestor in the past...but an invisible, omniscient man in the sky is perfectly reasonable?
This is one of my biggest 'to-do's' with Christianity, if there are over 6 billion people on earth I'd guess atleast 1 billion are completely void of any knowledge of Jesus Christ, so fuck them right? Ghandi? Mandela? Fuck 'em? Some of the greatest people to ever live are either atheist or simply don't believe in traditional Abrahamic theology. If those people can't get into "heaven" then believe all the self righteous stuff you want but you're not getting in to that heaven.
haha I was attempting to be civil. No need to get into a flamefest here. I keep an open mind but I am conservative Christian that holds strong Christian beliefs. With that being said, it takes more faith to believe that the universe was created by a big bang or that all of creation evolved from algae than it does to believe in intelligent design.
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What's the opinion on what happened to ancient peoples like the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans pre-Christianity, the Huns, the Gauls... Cave men... What happened to them in the afterlife?
Likelihood of the big bang is somewhere in the 1 and a few hundred billion range, we know that. There is a big difference between that and believing a bearded man and a red guy with a pitchfork are battling over the souls of a select few who are born into Christian backgrounds.
How do you know they haven't heard about Jesus?
I guess the only way to find out is when we die.
Every instance of a missionary expedition discovering a new tribe to begin preaching the word of God to means, before they arrived, there were natives living and subsequently dying without that knowledge.
Do you know for 100% certainty? The Lord works in crazy ways
What do you consider hearing about Jesus? I've heard all I need to hear so I don't count, I'm talking about peoples of Africa, southeast Asia, and South America who are either unaware of Jesus or only hear about Christianity glancingly and aren't asked to take it seriously. If you're raised a certain way and then one day somebody tells you "oh btw, white people believe in a zombie that will save all of us" how seriously are they supposed to take that statement?
The part where the natives didn't know anything about Christian teachings seems pretty certain to me.
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