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Read my post on the previous page.
Not only am I not working for a union, but I'm in no way involved with labor law, nor do I ever intend to do labor law. Saying that lawyers make the most off of unions is, for lack of a better term, silly. It's the type of generic "blame-the-lawyer" ridiculousness that comes from someone who doesn't know to what extent lawyers are involved in or how much they profit from labor disputes.
Wisconsin passed RTW and now has a balanced budget. The unions said that if RTW passed it would be a failure and thousands of teachers would be fired. As far as I know neither one of those things happened.
I'm sorry but to me whenever a Dem or union say one thing I know the exact opposite will happen, or when they accuse Repubs of something usually they are the one doing themselves.
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No, Wisconsin doesn't have a balanced budget. Wisconsin's budget is balanced this year, under the cash accounting method. However, under the accrual accounting method (the preferred GAAP option, a method that Scott Walker cited in arguing for state healthcare cuts, and the method that almost every state uses in its accounting), Wisconsin is looking at a $3billion deficit over the next two years.
Whether it is cash or accrual, it evens out over the long run. If they choose cash basis, they will have to use it next year as well. Anytime there is a change, they have to make adjustments to show comparative financials. It's not like they can bounce back and forth between the two to show the best possible financials. It's perfectly fine if they choose to use cash basis.
Struck a chord their apparently. I distinctly recall you discussing working for a corporate vs little man firm while you were in law school and that you wanted to work them post-law school. I remember it it because you refused to acknowledge the irony.
Sorry you disagree so vehemently, but your world view is in a stage that could be legally aborted by your political view.
Edit: you should really apply that not knowing people real vs virtual philosophy to to your interactions on this board some time.
This post was edited by PTCcock195 19 months ago
Please point me to this thread you speak of.
I do work for a corporate law firm, but you make an incredible amount of assumptions and unfounded extrapolations in thinking you know anything about me.
As for your attempts at insulting my worldview, it's just sad. You speak like you're some authority on world views. How about you provide a single shred of evidence for your opinion of me?
EDIT: When I form opinions of people, I base it on something - typically, them being wrong about something that's easily provable. You, on the other hand, have yet to provide anything of the sort.
This post was edited by CMXI 19 months ago
Oh. I think you're right. Thanks
I just think you're political opinion is immature and utopic. It will change once you get out of academia. It's not that my view is empirical, not even close. I would never claim to have a better opinion than anyone else. I've just always been the type to hold my elders, for lack of a better term, in high esteem and they've been been almost prophetic when it comes to political ideology...and I see it in your situation and find if amusing.
Oh, give that a rest. Are you seriously going to pull the "you're too young, you're still a student" line? Shockingly enough, there are plenty of people who understand the world better at a younger age than the vast majority of people do at any age.
You speak with a certainty that belies your utter lack of evidence for your position. You say I fail to recognize ironies in my position, you say my political opinion is immature, and you say that my views will change once I get out of academia. Do you have a single, credible shred of evidence for any of this? No. You base your assessment of my views on a heavily-biased personal sampling of the elders in your life.
Speaking of failing to recognize irony, you say that my political opinion is immature and utopic. (For now, we'll ignore the fact that utopic isn't a word, and we'll just assume you used the correct word, "utopian.") Unless you agree that your political opinions are as bad as you perceive mine to be, you saying "I would never claim to have a better opinion than anyone else" is just a load of crap. I haven't had a problem with you before, but this whole sequence is spectacularly idiotic.
CMXI. Make sure you keep all the dates straight for the paperwork you are doing while you're shaking down companies.
Aww, you're cute. Still can't play with the big boys intellectually, but you just try so darn hard.
Doesn't that sound kind of... Depressing? Regardless of which side of the fence you fall on? Right or Left, it almost comes off as, "I understand you have high hopes for people and this country, but a few years from now, your learn the world is sh!t and you can't change anything. You'll see."
Again, I'm speaking non-partisan-ly. It just comes off as a little defeatist IMO.
I know right? I am just not on the same level as an intellectual big boy such yourself. I wish I could recite all the things my liberal professors tried to brainwash me with.
unions were necessary in 1904 when little johnny was working in a pittsburgh steel mill for $1 a week, without safety goggles etc...
but like most things they've gone way too far and are a detriment to productivity in most cases.
one of the things that crippled the auto industry was the uaw. trust me, i saw it with my own eyes when i worked at a ford plant. throw in affirmative action and you have trouble.
much cheaper to manufacture overseas...
off to work to help people who refuse to work...but can.
funny last comment
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I never said that was what you did or what you were going to do. Yes, lawyers do make the most money off the unions they represent and a large number of union heads are former lawyers as well.
When you take away dues, most workers make about 25 to 50 cents extra per hour. That doesn't include the lost overtime that they aren't allowed to receive because of the union contract or the fact that they are unable to receive a raise or bonus based on merrit anymore. Unions hurt good workers in that way because they aren't allowed to make more or do more.
Back to the lawyers. I can guarantee you that they are making more than 50 cents an hour.
best post on the thread. Good job, buddy!
Unions arent good or bad. They are a way to let your company know you are serious though. I went through a campaign just a year ago. It was an interesting timr
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