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Um, yeah. The FBI website backs me up. The majority of homicides in the US every year are committed with guns.
Why yes, as a matter of fact, I am.
Was the transition from humor to serious in that post too subtle for you?
Yep - I struggle with intercepting that hidden message daily with mine.
"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood, nobody!"
svendborg and copenhagen. what were you doing there?
What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome.--Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Yes, I do. I think it comes down to a matter of ease. If you make it more difficult for people to access guns, you'll see less violence out of it.
So many killings in the U.S. are so-called "passion" killings. A significant portion of gun-related homicides in the US are heat-of-the-moment actions rather than fully pre-meditated killings. If a household has an easily accessible firearm, a domestic argument could turn from some bruises and an assault charge to a murder disturbingly easily.
Hell, even premeditated killings can be thwarted by preventing access to weapons. Someone with an extreme amount of anger could receive help/cool off before buying a legal gun. This is why I'm a huge fan of waiting periods.
And this is why I detest so much media nowadays - we're just so inundated that even the responsible parents have troubles ensuring that their kids get the right message out of media. The kids who grow up without responsible parents are just screwed.
3 points I will add to this:
1) statistical studies from other developed countries with access to similar movies and video games show significantly less gun violence. This is strong evidence that ensuring only responsible citizens have access to firearms will help reduce (not eliminate) gun violence.
2) Mark Kelly's testimony yesterday is a good example for how common sense reforms, such as limits on magazines, can save lives. Loughner fired 13 bullets before he killed a 9 year old girl. His magazine had 30 rounds. He was tackled while trying to reload. Had his magazine had 10 rounds and everything else happened as it did. That 9 year old girl may be alive.
3) Some people are advocating that more guns are the solution. If they are wrong and it turns out that putting less guns on the street really can reduce gun violence, it will just be that much harder to take exceptionally harmful and dangerous firearms off the street if we reverse course. However, if we start by trying to limit access and find that it doesn't work, it will be much easier to give everyone an AR-15 later if we really think that will help. I suppose what I'm saying in an inartful way is that it is much easier to try to reduce the number of guns now, than trying to reduce them after we have taken affirmative steps to try and increase them.
You may run like Hayes, but you hit like $*!#
Ok so did the link I posted not work. That was supporting my non meeting part of my original post. As I stated I didn't say he was on vacation. You're a lawyer and if your firm is having important meetings and you're not there does it matter why you aren't there If the link didn't work then I get why you say I can't show evidence.
Holy lack of punctuation, Batman.
If you can find a working link of some sort, I'd love to see it.
The average citizen can get an armed security detail, but they ain't cheap.
You see that sign that says 'Rib Tips'??
I can't vouch for the veracity or the provenance of this vid (came to me from an uncle that lives in a farm in Idaho - not a fan of gun control) but I thought it was interesting.
Gun control in Australia
Krusty the Clown: Hey yutz. Guns aren't toys - - they're for family protection, hunting dangerous and delicious animals, and keeping the king of England out your face.
From the Homer gets a gun episode. Loaded with quality quotes
your average private citizen can not legally obtain an M249, not sure what point you are driving.
@CMXI - A few minutes ago I asked if you thought homicides would simply go up in "non-firearm" categories if there was more gun control. According to the FBI link you provided, the total # of homicides has gone down every year since 2007. Firearm related homicides have done the same, meaning people did not choose another means for murder when a gun wasn't available to them, which answered my earlier question.
Some other math totals since 2007:
- Deaths from knives or cutting instruments (8976).
- Deaths from non-traditional firearms (9361)
There were almost as many knife homicides as there were deaths by assault rifles and non traditional firearms.
Deaths from a handgun (33,034)
This post was edited by Red Goodman 15 months ago
Ah, sorry, I thought you were asking about gun-homicides, my fault. Glad my source gave you the answers anyways.
First of all, we are talking about magazines, not clips.
Secondly, banning "extended" mags won't do a thing. In fact, non-extended 9mm mags hold 15 rounds...
The most deadly shooting massacre to occur in US history, Va. Tech, was done so with a back pack full (17 I think) standard magazines. Proving it does not take but a second to drop and insert a fresh mag then rack the slide.
This movement is based solely on 'feel good' solutions, it isn't the type of ammo, gun, or mag.. it is the crazies who are possessing them and using them on unarmed civilians.
Ill Try this again. I'm not a computer whiz by any means which is obvious. Or English teacher. Doing this driving in the snow isn't helping either
If you've read my posts on these last two pages you'd see that I agree with you and was simply playing devils advocate earlier in this thread. My apologies for any confusion. I made a very valid point just above on the same premiss as you just presented.
"For me personally, the problem is the evil within people that kills, not the weapons they use to manifest their actions"
Your repeated use of 'anyways' offends me. Makes you sound like you went to SUNY Purchase or Cornell or something. Clean that up.
But what's cool is the FBI link does prove that over the last 5 years less guns did indeed result in less deaths. People didn't resort to knives, poison, fire etc to kill when they didn't have a gun available which gives your argument legs that many deaths result in simple arguments and knee jerk reactions.
Oh sorry, I am just popping in and out while working :)
Hey, bite me. My upstate NY mannerisms are a part of who I am.
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