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Actually I do. The cops arrested him for filming police. Absolutely disgusting.
Read the quotes by the officers. They claimed they were protecting the man who was arrested ...from his own dog... because he was defenseless. At least man up and say you were protecting yourself.
Regardless, understand the situation. Of course the dog is going to be excited and be ready to defend his owner. The man was already complying, there was no flight risk, let him control his dog.
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So this morons dog is shot because he wouldn't turn his radio down like he was asked to. What an idiot.
No they didn't. They arrested him because he wouldn't turn his radio down. (Interfering with an in investigation)
That sucked to watch but the dog was acting aggressively and lunged at the officers a couple times. I'd shoot him too. Not gonna let some dog chew me up if I can stop it.
The guy also antagonized the cops by standing on the street corner and staring them down/continuing to film them. Then he is yelling things at them when he walks away. Why? Why give the cops a reason to even come over to you when they obviously had just finished with some other dangerous situation (hence all the cars and think I saw a machine gun)? They were probably on edge.
I think the owner pretty much brought this on himself by his actions. He antagonized the cops, didn't secure his dog in the car, and he's gonna have to live with the consequences. Sucks though.
For all we know, the cops weren't even arresting him but merely detaining him because he failed to comply with the officers request during an armed robbery call. Until we see some sort of arrest report its all just speculating. but people saying he was arrested or detained because he was video taping are morons.
Morons? Cops are the very worst when it comes to citizens filming them. They absolutely hate it.
1. He's not the only one filming.
2. None of those things are illegal.
3. The cops should have taken the proper steps to ensure that the dog was properly secured not just for their safety, but for the safety of those around them.
A simple scolding would have been more than enough to put the man in his place. There was absolutely no need to cuff/arrest him.
Police should have handled this situation better. Dog didn't have to die... They could have secured the dog before it was able to get out of the car. This kind of stuff pisses me off. I understand the cop had to protect themselves, but this is ridiculous.
Edit: Not saying anyone should lose a job over this... But there should be some discipline for these cops IMO
This post was edited by RopeDAWG82 9 months ago
So in other words, you assumed he was arrested for filming cops, until you actually read some other links saying he was being detained for interfering with an investigation because he refused to turn his music down.
According to you. Then again, when the cops asked him twice to turn his music down, a simple turning down of the music would have been good but this moron wouldn't do it. He decided to do what he apparently does best and make a scene. Then the cops have only one other alternative....... They cuff and detain him until their other situation is under control. The guy took the dog to the car. He had a chance to properly secure the dog before the cops cuffed him. Why should the cops trust that this guy can do what he already should have done? I'm not trying to defend the cops here but it's easy to say what you would do until you're out in that situation.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by DrStache 9 months ago
This happened here in LA. Officers were wrong in handcuffing the bloke....it's not illegal to videotape cops....hell, the other day I learned its not illegal to curse out cops.....WHO KNEW???
Can you show me where they were detaining or cuffing him for video taping? They weren't.
Don't be naive. Cops have all sorts of bs charges that let them arrest people. Listening to the radio too loud is interfering with a police investigation... really?
I just assumed that's what they were doing....what did he get cuffed for then?
Cops are above the law. It really makes me angry when I see cops abusing traffic laws... just bc they can. Driving well above speed limit with no emergency lights on, flicking their emergency lights to run through a red light, etc etc etc
Most cops out there are great and are there to protect and serve the public. But a few tarnish the reputation of the rest...
Naive? Lmao. Ok. It's the law. People either abide by it or get detained. It's fairly simple.
Society needs to implement laws against cops. How many times do we see cops break laws that get normal citizens locked up and all they get is a suspension. Some of them think they're fuggin stormtroopers that can get away with murder (literally).
You must not have watched the video. The guy put the dog in his car and was getting ready to leave, thereby putting an end to the "situation", when the cops called him back over to cuff him. The second those cuffs are placed on him the cops are now responsible for the safety of themselves, the public, and the dog. They could have easily escorted the man to his car to secure his dog, to make sure it was done properly before cuffing him. They didn't, and as a result of their carelessness, a situation that looked fairly safe, instantly degraded to a chaotic scene without cause. You are defending the cops. No doubt they've got a tough and often times thankless job. But they were wrong this time no other way to slice it.
Ok, this is one thing you have to understand about things you dont know about....
When you respond to some calls, you dont run code based on what the call is. You respond quickly and safely. But you dont bring any un needed attention to yourself. Do people abuse this? Yes, but you still dont know what the situation is.
Not all cops are good, but the good far outweigh the bad. You only hear about the bad because the media runs with the story and twists it to how it should sound.
In my experience 99% of people who dont like cops are either, 1. a criminal (yes, weed is still against the law), or 2. a moron who wants to argue and fight everything. I GUARANTEE! if you fight with me, verbally or physically. I will punish you to the highest point I can. BUT if you go with it, admit your wrong... 99% of the time, I'm letting you off, or busting your ticket down to a stupid lesser fine and points. Same thing goes for minor arrestable offenses.
With me, its ALL about how you handle yourself. I can be your friend, or the biggest dick in the world. Its all up to you.
One thing I won't do though, is put myself in harms way. I will always be cautious to the point where I know your not carrying a weapon or have any ill intent. I am going to make sure I am safe before anything else, whether that means putting you on the ground a gun point, or doing a pat down before I talk to you.
Sorry for the long rant. I'm done
No, you are wrong. The owner has the responsibilty for the dog. and the dog was put away in the eyes of the police. They protected themselves and the public by putting the dog down. PERIOD.
second guess it all you want, they did what they had to do.
They certainly weren't cuffing him for having his music to loud. Were that the case they'd have had him turn it off before cuffing him.
Nope. Sorry chief. The dude is in cuffs. He is no longer physically able to control his dog, and as such the onus falls on the officers that are detaining him. PERIOD. There were a myriad of ways to handle the situation while still cuffing the man. Their first priority should be safety. Not properly securing a 130 lb dog before arresting his owner does not meet that requirement.
Which these cops did not do.
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