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If so who and how?

The Chineese would be my guess, but would they be alone?

This is obviouly a worst case senario hypothetical event that I've always found interesting.

Why attack North America? Is there anything to gain? If the Middle East dries up which it will at some point, do the Chineese make a first strike on the Russian pipelines or do they join forces and make a move on the largest oil/natural gas deposits remaining here in North America. We have a massive store of fossil fuels in the Canadian oil sands and massive oil shale deposits in the midwest/NW. If I'm not mistaken there is actually more fossil fuels in North America than anywhere, we just can't efficiently and in a cost effective manner refine it. I'm sure there are more educated posters who know more oil shale than I do.

Energy neccesity is the only reason I can think of for a North American Invasion.

The only way I could see it happening is if there was a cyber attack on the missle defense system and power grids. I don't know if this is even possible as I would assume it would all need to happen near the same time and the US has to have counter measures and breaks to prevent a systemic attack.

Maybe EMP's? If you could narrowly focus and aim an emp blast, similar to lacing a target or into a hand held weapon, could you not disable something as large as a city or base, gunship or carier etc leaving our skies and shores far more suseptable to a successful attack? Air superiority and Naval power have historically given militaries the greatest advantages, if they have them and we don't to some extent is the only way I could see a possible invasion even remotely possible.

What would an invading force do when they got here and how would they get in our borders? Obviously our Navy is the most dominant force in the world so I would asume they come in through the vast rural Canadian shoreline/Alaska and sweep west to east to the oil sands and try to choke us from there.

If a unified Chineese and Russian ground force came south from there and attempted to enter our borders with our defense and power systems down or worse used against us with very little fuel could they defeat us through a ground campaign? Our millitary is an awesome fighting force, but the key would be the gun loving American people. I would think it comes down to a numbers game and we would be greatly out numbered. A combined force of the Chineese adn Russian is about 5 million, but have hundreds of millions of millitary aged men and women. Our active and reserve forces are around 3 million and about 140 million millitary aged men and women.

Obviously we are Americans and would fight to the death and I would say every single American defending their home is worth 10 invaders, but could our dependency on technology and fossil fuels be the focul point of the U.S.'s demise?

When it comes to energy are there any real allies when it's running out or is it every man for themselves where allegences are held hostage by our enemies? This is obviously not something that would happen now(or ever), but hypothetically in the future.

I don't think there could be a complete takeover of the US, but rather push our borders back to say the Mason-Dixon Line at the worst. This would allow us access to the closest source of fossil fuels left and the Navy to gaurd from the South.

I don't know why I'm posting this right now(nursing a wicked hangover) and people probably think I'm crazy, but there it is. I haven't seen the new Red Dawn and have no idea what the plot line is, but now I feel compelled to watch it and two of my favorite shows Doomesday Preppers and Man vs Wild. I heard the new Red Dawn was so bad they shot it years ago and just realeased it this year which is why I haven't even considered paying for it, so I probably already know the answer to this, but is it even worth seeing now that I've gone off on this rant? The first Red Dawn was one of my favorite films growing up.

America.