The Blue Board

I think there is a lot to be determined yet.

I do think AJ is a much better prospect than most realize, but I also don't think he goes #1 overall either.

He could be a first rounder, IMO depending on when he comes out and the talent in the class.

I also think Stafford got the benefit of a weak class as well.

A lot of people have judged AJ based off previous Alabama QBs as well. He is the most talented QB Alabama has had since probably Richard Todd.

The QB recruiting since Saban got here has been lightyears ahead of what it was prior and when you look at McCarron, Sims, and now Bateman.

Filler guys like Ely and Morris, who are quality QBs would have been penciled in as 2 or 3 year startes just 6 years ago.

Last two posts are just butthurt. Stafford would have been the #1 pick in almost every recent draft class. He was CLEARLY the best QB in his draft class and it was weak one, but that doesn't change that he is the best QB prospect since Manning.

AJ is a solid game manager, he is probably the best Bama QB since Namath (actually is not saying that much, surprisingly) and his arm isn't a limp noodle, but it isn't close to being in Matt's league.

He would have not been taken before Cam or Andrew Luck.

You're the delusional Dawg douch canoe downvoting to your dislike. I'm sorry bud, but hindsight is always 20/20.

If your playing the game that if Detroit didn't need a quarterback he would go at best 5th in '09 you can't play this game too. Cam could have fallen way down based off of the coach. I know some coaches were dying to get him but there were other who would not consider him 1st round. Luck doesn't have the physical ability of Stafford. I could see that being a good battle for who would go 1st.

If the right coaches line up Cam might not have been taken till real late. He was a shear gamble. I'm not sure you know what you are talking about. Luck and Stafford would be a good battle. Considering you are comparing AJ to Stafford, that does not surprise me though.
Stafford is a the top QB or at least a battle for the top spot when another great (Luck) comes along. It's like you haven't watched Detroit lately.

Nicolae. He said Stafford would have been taken #1 in every recent draft class.

No doubt, the injury would have made it questionable, but don't forget the consensus opinion of Bradford following his pro day. It would have been interesting. There were some that though Bradford could have been #1 after his So year as well.

As far as Murray, I see the Brees comparison in size and ability. Brees wasn't an elite prospect for a QB in the draft either and is probably close to where Murray could get drafted although he'll probably go higher as QBs just fly off the board now.

No one would have foreseen Brees's career as its gone.

I think he would have pushed for it in every recent draft, and I was posting with full understanding of that. What I made comment of was you indicated that if detroit didn't need a quaterback that stafford would have been 5. My point was that that could be said about all #1 picks who are quaterbacks, not just Stafford.

I was as shocked as any when Stafford was evaluated so high. I was with most early anlyst in thining that he would be late 1st round. But apparently his physical attributes meant more to draft scouts than what others were giveng credit for. Having said that Stafford has the better arm of the three mentioned: Cam, Bradford and Luck. Would he go higher, . It depends on the coach/Owner/GM. But I gaurantee he would be in the battle for top spot. Stafford, Luck, Bradford, Cam who knows will have a better career. But they all can make a decent argument over who's better.

MCCarron... he's not in that group.

Hindsight is always 20/20. Your foresight---not so much.

Knowing what we did in the 11 Draft, Stafford goes before Cam.

Stafford fit’s what we offensively want to do, and he is a superior prospect to Bradford.

But honestly if we want to play that game, If Luck and RG3 would have come back for their senior year, AJ is probably the 8th QB taken in the 2013 Draft.

Cam didn’t have a good combine. He had a great workout. But was inconsistent throwing the ball IIRC. His stock didn’t really jump until team’s started bringing him in for private workouts IIRC. Let’s not forget that the 11 Draft was weak as well when it came to QB’s. You don’t compare where they were picked, or what Draft they were in. You compare them as prospects. No one except a couple Auburn homers was expecting Cam to do what he did in 2011. If Stafford as a prospect in 09, and Cam as a prospect in 11 were in the same Draft I’m confident Stafford would have been picked first for most teams. Cam probably has a higher ceiling, but Stafford didn’t have the off the field concerns, and was a 3 year starter IIRC.

Was not expecting Ponder, was sorta expecting Tannehill because Wilson and Barkley came back to school.