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It's called Google.

And also you are leaving out her fathers involvement in the city unions in Chicago, which he was very high up in. So no he wasn't just a pump operator.

See my above post.

You also see my above post.

thats upper middle class.

I don't think you understand what it costs to live in a city like Chicago. A household income of $300,000 would not make you upper-middle class. This isn't Alabama where that makes you pretty much a millionaire. She is solid middle-class.

I'll concede she is stretching it a tad, but her language was vague. She certainly didn't flat-out lie. It's not she lived on the Northside and her parents were millionaires or something.

I conceded already

First off props for actually addressing my argument and not dodging me like barney is doing. At least you recognize that raising taxes is not as important as growing the economy when it comes to raising tax revenues.

As I said before raising taxes on anyone will not solve anything. And just because we are not raising taxes does not mean that we are raising taxes on the poor. I believe in low taxes for everybody and like you said they should be consistent. The constant up and down is not good for businesses who want to do business in this country. We need to be attracting them not detracting them.

The best thing we can do is look back at what has worked in the past and one of the best blue prints of bringing an economy back from the brink was Reagan. Obama has done the exact opposite of everything Reagan did. Under Reagan he brought the top marginal tax rate down from 70% to 28%. How dare he lower taxes on those "evil" rich people? You know what the weird thing is though? The poorest quantile flourished under Reagan. Progressive spread the wealth theory (which is what Obama believes in) says that if one person is poor it is because another person is rich. I attached another graphic to prove my point. The Poorest and Median quantiles incomes actually grew when Reagan cut taxes as well as capital gains tax.

I would still like a better rebuttal on my first graphic about tax revenues being tied to GDP. I feel like you guys are dancing that a little. I also encourage you to go to the numbers yourself. It is important to actually do the work instead of just relying on biased news outlets to feed you one liners. The truth is that Obama should be more focused on providing a better environment for this economy to grow than waging a "war on women" and a "war on people who make more than 250,000.

I am with you that their needs to be some serious cuts and I will actually provide another graphic on where your taxes actually go. But the person who you are more alined with in that regard is Paul Ryan. He is the one who actually has a BUDGET plan. Obama doesn't even have one. He submitted one just because he is required to by law but he and Reid knew the best thing to do politically is to not talk about cuts with the American people.

A huge portion of our spending goes to entitlement programs as you will see in the graphic. Now you would think that social security would be funded by the FICA tax right? -nope. Their is very little money in the social security trust fund and that money has been spent elsewhere. So you yourself recognize that there needs to be cuts but do you honestly think Obama will cut anything? Do you honestly expect a president who added 6 trillion in debt in 4 years to make cuts?

I can't wait to hear about the war on woman tonight. Should be interesting coming from the point of view from an accused rapist who cheats on his wife.

The plantation party man

Thank goodness I'm going to be watching the NFL game tonight so I don't have to watch that trash.

Adding additional mouths to the government tit is no way to improve anything. It won't make anyone prosperous and certainly won't "turn the tide" for this country.

I don't like where the Republican party sits these days any more than the next guy, but if voting Republican means making private citizens more money and voting Democrat means making the federal government more money (through taxes) and then giving it to people who sit on their ass all day, I'll vote Republican EVERY DAMN TIME.