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Defense: Bama, LSU, UGA, FSU

  • aumajorpain said...

    Gilmore was overrated as hell.

    Maybe he missed on some plays but he was consistently pretty good.

    Barron missed on a few plays, not going to use the torn muscle as a reason, when we played your team year before last. He didn't miss on anything last year.

    Losing experience and leadership like that in the secondary hurts. I don't care how talented the new guy is.

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  • duvalnole said...

    I know all about how defense and offense work, but our offense struggled last year to, and we still had a top 10 defense. Like I said our our offense did nor really hurt our defense much, and I have seen teams with worst offenses do good in college because of their defense like lsu pretty much the whole tine under les miles.

    We're talking about having a top D though. If your D has to be on the field more than your offense then your chances of fielding a number 1 are slim

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  • duvalnole said...

    I know all about how defense and offense work, but our offense struggled last year to, and we still had a top 10 defense. Like I said our our offense did nor really hurt our defense much, and I have seen teams with worst offenses do good in college because of their defense like lsu pretty much the whole tine under les miles.

    Once again we aren't saying FSU's defense is going to suck or not be top five. Just giving you reasons why we don't expect your defense to finish the season at #1.

    I would be just fine if you told me that Bama would end the season in the top five in the country. It's honestly not disrespect.

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  • RATT said...

    Your defense also would worry me losing Ingram and the other studs that you had in the front seven (Can't remember their names but you had two good one's I think outside Ingram). Clowney will have to really come out for those losses not to hurt something fierce along with the loss of Gilmore in the secondary.

    Covered Gimore in previous post. Akeem Auguste was starting in the secondary before Gilmore got on campus. Hampton was our best cover CB last as a RS freshman.

    Clowney didn't start. Ingram did. Travian Robertson hurts because of leadership more than skill but we were #3 total defense with him. Quarles is better and the #2 DT next to Travian most of last year is now Clowney's backup. Byron Jerideau is slotted to be #2 DT and setting strength records in our S & C. Kind of like a certain Bama NT who's already been annointed as the shit...JUCO transfer, hasn't shown it on the field yet, and strongest on the team.

    This post was edited by PTCcock195 on 6/5/2012 at 9:09 PM

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  • RATT said...

    Once again we aren't saying FSU's defense is going to suck or not be top five. Just giving you reasons why we don't expect your defense to finish the season at #1.

    I would be just fine if you told me that Bama would end the season in the top five in the country. It's honestly not disrespect.

    For real.

    And I thought our fanbase got butthurt easily

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  • PTCcock195 said...

    Covered Gimore in previous post. Akeem Auguste was starting in the secondary before Gilmore got on campus. Hampton was our best cover CB last as a RS freshman.

    Clowney didn't start. Ingram did. Travian Robertson hurts because of leadership more than skill but we were #3 total players with him. Quarles is better and the #2 DT next to Travian most of last year is now Clowney's backup. Byron Jerideau is slotted to be #2 DT and setting strength records in our S & C. Kind of like a certain Bama NT who's already been annointed as the shit...JUCO transfer, hasn't shown it on the field yet, and strongest on the team.

    Actually Jesse Williams started every game last season but thanks for the info. I learned something about your team that I didn't know. Hell we have to get to Atlanta first before I give a damn about what USCe does this year.

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  • PTCcock195 said...

    Covered Gimore in previous post. Akeem Auguste was starting in the secondary before Gilmore got on campus. Hampton was our best cover CB last as a RS freshman.

    Clowney didn't start. Ingram did. Travian Robertson hurts because of leadership more than skill but we were #3 total players with him. Quarles is better and the #2 DT next to Travian most of last year is now Clowney's backup. Byron Jerideau is slotted to be #2 DT and setting strength records in our S & C. Kind of like a certain Bama NT who's already been annointed as the shit...JUCO transfer, hasn't shown it on the field yet, and strongest on the team.

    The difference is that your DL has yet to show it on the field.

    His technique may not be down and while having awesome brute strength is the tits, technique is better

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  • aumajorpain said...

    Gilmore was overrated as hell.

    NFL scouts agree with you. His stats diminish Kirkpatrick's in 2-3 more games. But you probably think Dre was overrated too.

    Those times you may have seen him get burned, he was covering up other people's blown coverages.

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  • Ichabod said...

    For real.

    And I thought our fanbase got butthurt easily

    No joke. It's stupid.

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  • PTCcock195 said...

    NFL scouts agree with you. His stats diminish Kirkpatrick's in 2-3 more games. But you probably think Dre was overrated too.

    Those times you may have seen him get burned, he was covering up other people's blown coverages.

    he was taken to the whipping post constantly

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  • RATT said...

    You seem mad but nobody in this whole fvcking thread said that FSU was going to be anything but at worst a top five defense.

    Take it easy Tanto.

    Not mad at all.. just straight'n out the misconceptions in this thread

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  • swizz said...

    Not mad at all.. just straight'n out the misconceptions in this thread

    I'm sorry but I honestly don't see any misconceptions in this thread other than FSU fans thinking that they are being disrespected by saying that they may not finish #1 in the country in total defense this year. I have seen nobody even mention that they won't be top five in the country.

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  • BAMA does have the BEST D Coach on the NCAA but I'm NOT SURE that it's Saban it mat be KIRBY SMART. BAMA is SO DEEP..... I'm not sure there will be ANY DROP OFF by mid season. With the new found speed on the corners look for that to open up the PLAYBOOK for those Defensive MINDS.... Corner Blitz hasn't been there for the last 2 years like 09.... By NEXT YEAR you might be looking at the BEST D EVER.....

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  • Ichabod said...

    The difference is that your DL has yet to show it on the field.

    His technique may not be down and while having awesome brute strength is the tits, technique is better

    That's the thing. Jesse Williams has 10 tackles in 13 games and he's automatically the shit.

    I dont even think Jerideau will be anything but a marginal player. We were #3 in total D last year with a marginal player at the 2nd DT spot and 7th round pick at the 1st DT spot.

    Edit: I don't think we're a top D. We were pretty decent last year but the #3 is overblown because we play in low yardage total conference. I just don't think UGA is that great when we were statistically better.

    This post was edited by PTCcock195 on 6/5/2012 at 9:24 PM

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  • PTCcock195 said...

    That's the thing. Jesse Williams has 10 tackles in 13 games and he's automatically the shit.

    I dont even think Jerideau will be anything but a marginal player. We were #3 in total D last year with a marginal player at the 2nd DT spot and 7th round pick at the 1st DT spot.

    I haven't been the one calling him the shit but he should have been at NT instead of DE but our linemen are never going to be huge in stats. He was just too good to keep off the field last year.

    Me and Ich have both admitted that our defense has a LOT to replace as well no matter how talented we are.

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  • I dont think we have been disrepected itt and i cant speak for other fsu fans... i just wanted to clear up the conception that our offense cant stay on the field and were only in contention because our schedule is weak

    How high our defense finishes is on them and how well they execute... there is no doubt in my mind our offense will handle their end of the bargain

    Carry on

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  • GYMMAN said...

    BAMA does have the BEST D Coach on the NCAA but I'm NOT SURE that it's Saban it mat be KIRBY SMART. BAMA is SO DEEP..... I'm not sure there will be ANY DROP OFF by mid season. With the new found speed on the corners look for that to open up the PLAYBOOK for those Defensive MINDS.... Corner Blitz hasn't been there for the last 2 years like 09.... By NEXT YEAR you might be looking at the BEST D EVER.....

    I see you have found the caps lock button on your first post.

    Good for you little buddy clap

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  • There are a lot of good reasons and reason for optimism for all of the teams mentioned. UGA just has the tendency to give up some yards and some points to teams that they shouldn't. There just seems to be a lack of focus at times. LSU and FSU are just sick loaded with talent on the defensive side of the ball and are both really well coached. Alabama has to fill some key spots with inexperience, with safety being the biggest concern. Barron was just never out of position and was incredible in run support. It wouldn't surprise me to see any of these teams finish at the top. As far as the USCe fan, you have some elite talent at certain spots, but just not enough across the board to be listed with these 4 teams. And depth plays a part as well. Maybe we can revisit this thread throughout the year.

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  • GYMMAN said...

    BAMA does have the BEST D Coach on the NCAA but I'm NOT SURE that it's Saban it mat be KIRBY SMART. BAMA is SO DEEP..... I'm not sure there will be ANY DROP OFF by mid season. With the new found speed on the corners look for that to open up the PLAYBOOK for those Defensive MINDS.... Corner Blitz hasn't been there for the last 2 years like 09.... By NEXT YEAR you might be looking at the BEST D EVER.....

    GO BACK TO BOL.

    I vote this for the dumbass quote of the week... "You might be looking at the best D ever"

    hahahahahahaha

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  • PTCcock195 said...

    That's the thing. Jesse Williams has 10 tackles in 13 games and he's automatically the shit.

    I dont even think Jerideau will be anything but a marginal player. We were #3 in total D last year with a marginal player at the 2nd DT spot and 7th round pick at the 1st DT spot.

    Edit: I don't think we're a top D. We were pretty decent last year but the #3 is overblown because we play in low yardage total conference. I just don't think UGA is that great when we were statistically better.

    If you could quote where I said Jesse was the shit then please do.

    However, our DEs aren't going to put up big numbers. Jesse all thoughout last year was still learning technique. He relied on a lot of strength.

    He's good and has a lot of potential but he's not all world or nothing right now.

    He is a vital part of our D however

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  • Lesticals said...

    GO BACK TO BOL.

    I vote this for the dumbass quote of the week... "You might be looking at the best D ever"

    hahahahahahaha

    Excuse me. Let me deal with the bammers.

    I need this

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  • Ichabod said...

    Excuse me. Let me deal with the bammers.

    I need this

    It's hilarious. Dude is serious. I really don't know how someone can be that stupid.

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  • Ichabod said...

    Excuse me. Let me deal with the bammers.

    I need this

    I was going to pounce but have fun little buddy.

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  • Lesticals said...

    It's hilarious. Dude is serious. I really don't know how someone can be that stupid.

    Yea. But it was a first post.

    Could be a troll.

    I'm holding out for a troll but money says he's a true bammer

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  • Lesticals said...

    It's hilarious. Dude is serious. I really don't know how someone can be that stupid.

    That is how you become a legend on BOL. Follow that type of post one after the other and your awesome in their eyes.

    Always have to remember to post your thoughts ending as follows though:

    Roll Tide Roll

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