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Greetings from the Big Ten Conference,
With the conclusion of another tremendous college football season and the recent national signing day, there has been a lot written and said about the Big Ten's recruiting efforts across the country, including a recent article in the Chicago Sun-Times entitled "Big Ten needs to find new talent pool - fast" (see full article here). In response to these commentaries, it seems premature for us to lower our admission standards or give up on the tremendous talent pool in the Midwest. No doubt national programs must recruit nationally wherever the talented students and athletes live. Hats off to Florida and the SEC -- they had a great year. We believe that both the Big Ten and the SEC have been and remain two of the greatest college football conferences in the country. But you may want to keep in mind the following as you review the various recruiting services, listen to talking heads and reflect the blogosphere out there as they compare these two fine conferences. I think most people would agree that head-to-head competition is an effective method to compare relative strengths between competitive entities:
The Big Ten was 2-1 vs. the SEC in this past season's bowl games. The Big Ten is 8-6 vs. the SEC in bowl games over the last five years The Big Ten is 13-13 vs. the SEC in bowl games over the last decade. Over the last nine years of Bowl Championship Series games, the Big Ten leads all conferences with 15 berths while ranking second with eight victories. The SEC tops all leagues with nine wins and ranks second to the Big Ten with 13 appearances. In the last 10 years the Big Ten has produced two national champions compared to three for the SEC. In the last 15 years the Big Ten has produced five Heisman Trophy winners, more than any other conference. Over that same time span, the SEC has claimed one Heisman.
I love speed and the SEC has great speed, especially on the defensive line, but there are appropriate balances when mixing academics and athletics. Each school, as well as each conference, simply must do what fits their mission regardless of what a recruiting service recommends. I wish we had six teams among the top 10 recruiting classes every year, but winning our way requires some discipline and restraint with the recruitment process. Not every athlete fits athletically, academically or socially at every university. Fortunately, we have been able to balance our athletic and academic mission so that we can compete successfully and keep faith with our academic standards.
Let's see if the five- and 10-year trend lines hold or whether the recruiting services and talking heads are seeing a new day. We are quite proud of our history and tradition and remain optimistic about the future of Big Ten football.
Thanks.
Jim Delany
Let's compare his measurables to see how the trend has turned:
The Big10 was 2-1 vs the SEC in 2006 Bowl games The Big10 was 1-3 vs the SEC in 2010 Bowl games (letting them keep Sugar Bowl for now)
As of 2006, the Big10 was 8-6 vs the SEC in Bowl games over the previous 5 years. As of 2010, the Big10 is 6-8 vs the SEC in Bowl games over the last 5 years.
As of 2006, the Big10 was 13-13 vs the SEC in Bowl games the previous 10 years. As of 2010, the Big10 is 12-16 vs the SEC in Bowl games the last 10 years.
As of 2006, the Big10 was 8-7 in BCS Bowl games and the SEC was 9-4. As of 2010, the Big10 is 11-12 in BCS Bowl games and the SEC is 15-6.
As of 2006, the Big10 had won 2 MNC's over the previous 10 years and the SEC 3. As of 2010, the Big10 has won 1 MNC over the last 10 years and the SEC has won 6.
As of 2006, the Big10 had won 5 Heismans over the previous 15 years and the SEC only 1. As of 2010, the Big10 has won 3 Heismans in the last 15 years, with the SEC winning 4.
I don't think the trend is going the way that Mr. Delany invisioned when he sent his pompous letter to all the SEC offices and Athletic Departments.
I dream of a day when chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned.
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devidee said...
You were the one who initially asked the question. If you didn't care, why ask?
No, the guy at the beginning of the thread made the statement regarding the academic superiority of the big ten, not me. I made a rebuttle to his statement, and then the
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tuskstider said...
Um how exactly does that point still stand that the Big Ten is superior academically?
I got my Master's and my concentration was from an institution that is the #7 best instiution for research on supply chain and supply chain management in the WORLD and it's in a city that is located in Tuscaloosa, AL and if my geography from middle school serves me correctly, Tuscaloosa, AL is not in the Big Ten area.
We have a saying down here in the South that goes a little like this, We don't give a damn how you do it up north. Being from the north doesn't make you smarter, what it does give you however is a sense of entitlement that you have not earned
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BetterOff said...
Greetings from the Big Ten Conference,
With the conclusion of another tremendous college football season and the recent national signing day, there has been a lot written and said about the Big Ten's recruiting efforts across the country, including a recent article in the Chicago Sun-Times entitled "Big Ten needs to find new talent pool - fast" (see full article here). In response to these commentaries, it seems premature for us to lower our admission standards or give up on the tremendous talent pool in the Midwest. No doubt national programs must recruit nationally wherever the talented students and athletes live. Hats off to Florida and the SEC -- they had a great year. We believe that both the Big Ten and the SEC have been and remain two of the greatest college football conferences in the country. But you may want to keep in mind the following as you review the various recruiting services, listen to talking heads and reflect the blogosphere out there as they compare these two fine conferences. I think most people would agree that head-to-head competition is an effective method to compare relative strengths between competitive entities:
The Big Ten was 2-1 vs. the SEC in this past season's bowl games.
The Big Ten is 8-6 vs. the SEC in bowl games over the last five years
The Big Ten is 13-13 vs. the SEC in bowl games over the last decade.
Over the last nine years of Bowl Championship Series games, the Big Ten leads all conferences with 15 berths while ranking second with eight victories. The SEC tops all leagues with nine wins and ranks second to the Big Ten with 13 appearances.
In the last 10 years the Big Ten has produced two national champions compared to three for the SEC.
In the last 15 years the Big Ten has produced five Heisman Trophy winners, more than any other conference. Over that same time span, the SEC has claimed one Heisman.I love speed and the SEC has great speed, especially on the defensive line, but there are appropriate balances when mixing academics and athletics. Each school, as well as each conference, simply must do what fits their mission regardless of what a recruiting service recommends. I wish we had six teams among the top 10 recruiting classes every year, but winning our way requires some discipline and restraint with the recruitment process. Not every athlete fits athletically, academically or socially at every university. Fortunately, we have been able to balance our athletic and academic mission so that we can compete successfully and keep faith with our academic standards.
Let's see if the five- and 10-year trend lines hold or whether the recruiting services and talking heads are seeing a new day. We are quite proud of our history and tradition and remain optimistic about the future of Big Ten football.
Thanks.
Jim Delany
Let's compare his measurables to see how the trend has turned:
The Big10 was 2-1 vs the SEC in 2006 Bowl games
The Big10 was 1-3 vs the SEC in 2010 Bowl games (letting them keep Sugar Bowl for now)As of 2006, the Big10 was 8-6 vs the SEC in Bowl games over the previous 5 years.
As of 2010, the Big10 is 6-8 vs the SEC in Bowl games over the last 5 years.As of 2006, the Big10 was 13-13 vs the SEC in Bowl games the previous 10 years.
As of 2010, the Big10 is 12-16 vs the SEC in Bowl games the last 10 years.As of 2006, the Big10 was 8-7 in BCS Bowl games and the SEC was 9-4.
As of 2010, the Big10 is 11-12 in BCS Bowl games and the SEC is 15-6.As of 2006, the Big10 had won 2 MNC's over the previous 10 years and the SEC 3.
As of 2010, the Big10 has won 1 MNC over the last 10 years and the SEC has won 6.As of 2006, the Big10 had won 5 Heismans over the previous 15 years and the SEC only 1.
As of 2010, the Big10 has won 3 Heismans in the last 15 years, with the SEC winning 4.I don't think the trend is going the way that Mr. Delany invisioned when he sent his pompous letter to all the SEC offices and Athletic Departments.
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