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  • GONIG BUCK said...

    But for real though, Kite. Tell me how hard my previous posts were to understand. I'll rescind my comment if you agree.

    Honestly I was done with this thread on page 3. I'm sure your posts aren't hard to figure out. I know my warning post wasn't hard to understand. I could call you a moron for not understanding it or ignoring it.

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    kitemac

  • TalHawkins112 said...

    Simply put, they don't have to. And they shouldn't have to. Polish people, Irish people, etc. they didn't immediately assimilate, they made their own neighborhoods and kept their own customs.

    Eventually their children will assimilate but until then we have no right to force them to and only people's fear of other cultures and the belief that because they cling to their own culture means they are rejecting American culture would make anyone want to coerce assimilation.

    If you move to another country illegally you don't have any right to complain about what you are forced to do. If you or myself move to Mexico or Italy or France we would be expected to immediately know the language, know the laws, know the culture, and abide by them and if we didn't we wouldn't make it. In America(at least Texas) we require schools to teach Spanish which is absurd.

    I have met many immigrants from the Middle East, Europe, Asia, and Australia that all came to America legally and once they got their citizenship proclaimed themselves Americans, living in Texas my entire life I have also met or am friends with many Mexicans, it is interesting to see the difference from legal immigrant Mexicans and illegal immigrant Mexicans. The ones that are legal consider themselves Americans and never want to go back to Mexico and understand that America has made their lives and their families lives better. The illegal immigrants consider themselves Mexicans that go back every few years and then hop back across the border when they want to come make some more money to send back to Mexico and they never want to be apart of the American culture.

    You seem to live in a kumbaya kind of world, and think all illegals are here doing the right thing and just trying to better their lives. Reality is they are jumping back and forth across the border when they want and are just here for a paycheck and yes even breaking laws while here(besides breaking the law of coming over illegally)

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    Dancing Bear1

  • I'm just used to ignoring you, sorry.

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  • Dancing Bear1 said...

    Reality is they are jumping back and forth across the border when they want and are just here for a paycheck and yes even breaking laws while here(besides breaking the law of coming over illegally)

    That's a great blanket statement. So you know every illegal immigrant in the US, then?

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    GONIG BUCK

  • USMCAG said...

    Are you trying to say only an illegal would drink and drive?

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  • bhiley77 said...

    I think this is one of those issues where every one of us has a story or is close to somebody who does. There are a lot of edge cases and outliers involved.

    Another thing that makes it kind of a drag is it can be a deeply cynical issue as number one reason this is a political issue is that hispanics are the fastest growing voting block in America, and politicians get the impression a lax attitude on immigration is the only way to get those votes.

    I thought that also. While visiting my wifes family in McAllen though, they hate the illegal immigrants. They hate the crime that comes with it. There breaking a law being there, why would they care about any other laws.

    I was surprised by what they had to say about it.

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  • GONIG BUCK said...

    I'm just used to ignoring you, sorry.

    Yeah I get the feeling you have a LOT of company in that regard.

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    kitemac

  • Snake Plissken said...

    They already require the I-9 and e-verify

    The government doesn't require e-verify it is a voluntary program that businesses can take part in, and all an I-9 check is is to make sure they have two forms of ID. Also companies can't ask for what two forms of ID is presented.

    Since people that work at your run of the mill business are not document experts they can't tell someone their ID is fake, so all an illegal immigrant needs to do is go get a fake Alien ID card which they can then take to their local Social Security Administration and get a real SS card because our own government doesn't take part in e-verify to ensure the Alien ID # they are giving is real or not.

    The government could help put a stop to illegal immigration if they really wanted to, but there is too much money being funneled into social security by illegals that will never use the funds.

    http://twitter.com/Rog_TheSpread

    Dancing Bear1

  • kitemac said...

    Yeah I get the feeling you have a LOT of company in that regard.

    Be nice Stalin.

    xxmgobluexx

  • GONIG BUCK said...

    That's a great blanket statement. So you know every illegal immigrant in the US, then?

    If you lived in Texas or Arizona perhaps you would have view point similar to mine and USMCAG towards illegal immigration

    http://twitter.com/Rog_TheSpread

    Dancing Bear1

  • bhiley77 said...

    Pardon me, are you under the impression that my response to your post was anything besides pointing out that it would be non-sequitur for a person to be anything but grateful at getting things for free? Just out of curiosity, what is it that you think I'm saying to you that's making you upset and calling me a moron?

    I think it's the fact that she said the people she has dealt with were kind and polite and you implied that meant they didn't swear at her. I assume you can see where she formed her opinion of you now.

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  • Dancing Bear1 said...

    If you lived in Texas or Arizona perhaps you would have view point similar to mine and USMCAG towards illegal immigration

    Hmmm..I lived in Texas for years and have never felt the way you both do.

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  • rms02d said...

    The reality is it is almost impossible to sneak across the US/Mexican border now thanks to a massive investment and hiring in the US Border Patrol Agency.

    lol, now that is funny and a bit naive..... By the time the immigration buses get back to Dallas from dropping off illegal immigrants being deported those same immigrants are already back also.

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    Dancing Bear1

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Be nice Stalin.

    Being nice just isn't for me. I try but just can't do it. If you ask my ex GFs they will tell you all about it...

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  • kitemac said...

    Being nice just isn't for me. I try but just can't do it. If you ask my ex GFs they will tell you all about it...

    Were any of them immigrants?

    xxmgobluexx

  • Snake Plissken said...

    Hmmm..I lived in Texas for years and have never felt the way you both do.

    Well if you live in Texas you also know that USMCAG and myself hold the popular viewpoint on immigration in Texas.

    As evident by the politicians we vote into office.

    http://twitter.com/Rog_TheSpread

    Dancing Bear1

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Were any of them immigrants?

    I'm a big fan of Latinos so I'm pretty sure one or two of them had parents or grandparents that were illegals. To my knowledge they weren't illegal though.

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  • rms02d said...

    I also lived in Dallas and never felt the way Mr. Dancing Bear feels.

    Then again, I went to school and worked hard, and I don't compete with non-English speaking, 4th grade dropouts for employment.

    My skillset can't be outsourced by a vegetable picker.

    Bingo

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  • bhiley77 said...

    Pardon me, are you under the impression that my response to your post was anything besides pointing out that it would be non-sequitur for a person to be anything but grateful at getting things for free? Just out of curiosity, what is it that you think I'm saying to you that's making you upset and calling me a moron?

    I'm not upset. I just don't get how hard it was to understand what I meant by being respectful. At these clinics, since they only happen once a month, the lines are often out of the door, and the wait to receive care can be several hours. Never once has anyone complained (without swearing, of course), or become upset and the wait time - or if they can't be seen at all. That's what I meant. And believe me, there are some people who are disrespectful when they are faced with waiting, or being turned away. THAT is what I meant.

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  • rms02d said...

    I said almost impossible, not impossible. There are also 100 times more of those immigration buses than what we had 10 years ago.

    I am not going to argue facts with someone that claims other countries solve illegal immigration problems with the death penalty.

    So you're denying that other countries have much harsher immigration laws.

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    USMCAG

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Were any of them immigrants?

    They were probably banned daily.

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  • Dancing Bear1 said...

    Well if you live in Texas you also know that USMCAG and myself hold the popular viewpoint on immigration in Texas.

    As evident by the politicians we vote into office.

    Can you still drive around with a gun on your dash in TX? I'll be in Austin in a week so I'll check that out for myself.

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  • GONIG BUCK said...

    They were probably banned daily.

    I just banned a guy because he sent me a PM I didn't like. You guys have it easy over here.

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  • kitemac said...

    Yeah I get the feeling you have a LOT of company in that regard.

    Also, this personal attack is hurtful. Please warn yourself.

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    GONIG BUCK

  • Snake Plissken said...

    I just banned a guy because he sent me a PM I didn't like. You guys have it easy over here.

    Did you see the PM I sent you?

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