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Derek Dooley crying because he can't oversign (as much)

  • mriderblue12 said...

    Michigan doesn't have it as tough as Tennessee. Building a program in the SEC takes a lot longer then the B1G IMO.

    We're not building a program, we're building a roster.

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  • no way BABY - gonna rule again and soon ...... no ...i do think they are going to get better but not back to where they were years ago ....but better for sure

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  • orangeasylum said...

    I guess that's what everyone should have thought about Michigan too after the RR experience.....

    You can't compare Tennessee and Michigan. Michigan has it easier in the BIG, while I don't think Tennessee will get more than 7 wins a season with a head coach, but thats just me.

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  • Resurgent Vol said...

    We're not building a program, we're building a roster.

    My point still stands. It's harder to recruit and win games in the SEC. The longer you are down, the further you are away.

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    My point still stands. It's harder to recruit and win games in the SEC. The longer you are down, the further you are away.

    I think we'll get our fair share of players if we can show production with the new coaching placements. They can recruit with the new staff as long as they show they can maintain some success, and even more if they can bring in the talent they want to recruit.

    I'd agree the longer you are down the harder, but we've still never lost more than 7 games, and that's a feat only one other school can claim.

    Hoping for the best.

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    Oh right. What about Joe McKnight's car? Or was that his girlfriends Range Rover?

    Or OJ Mayo getting paid? Or was it just basketball program?

    I'm not standing over any program chirping them for supposed moral deficiencies propping up Michigan's in the process. Considering you just had 30 schollys stripped and 2 years bowl ban, you would think that would silence you.

    Then SC hires Lane Kiffin. roflmao

    SC is probably the worst example of a school to be preaching about anything.

    Although Joe was cleared, he was asked to not return to USC by the university. There is no documentation stating that USC paid any player, including OJ Mayo.

    You hired Rich Rod, and you've had more than your fair share of sanctions.

    Don't play stupid and ignorant, it's unbecoming.

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    They have to oversign....half those kids will struggle to maintain their eligibility in those tough academic juggernauts in that conference. roflmao

    See, it is comments like this which prove that the anti "oversigning" masses don't even understand what they are opposing. I bet you can't even explain what it is you're fighting against.

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    Although Joe was cleared, he was asked to not return to USC by the university. There is no documentation stating that USC paid any player, including OJ Mayo.

    You hired Rich Rod, and you've had more than your fair share of sanctions.

    Don't play stupid and ignorant, it's unbecoming.

    no

    you are just as annoying as all the USCw fans on here, why do all of you suck so hard ?

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  • Zzyzx Rd. said...

    See, it is comments like this which prove that the anti "oversigning" masses don't even understand what they are opposing. I bet you can't even explain what it is you're fighting against.

    Yup

    God forbid a thug who doesn't even go to class gets his scholarship pulled

    They deserve 4 years, just like Arrington Jenkins and Avis Commack did

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  • Zzyzx Rd. said...

    See, it is comments like this which prove that the anti "oversigning" masses don't even understand what they are opposing. I bet you can't even explain what it is you're fighting against.

    The NFL is going to give the NFC East 7-14 more draft picks per yr every yr. ok?

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  • Webberlang said...

    The NFL is going to give the NFC East 7-14 more draft picks per yr every yr. ok?

    Baseball gives compensation picks each season to teams that couldn't sign their draft pics. That's a better analogy.

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    Although Joe was cleared, he was asked to not return to USC by the university. There is no documentation stating that USC paid any player, including OJ Mayo.

    You hired Rich Rod, and you've had more than your fair share of sanctions.

    Don't play stupid and ignorant, it's unbecoming.

    Yep and Aubrenz recruitment of Cam Newton was picture perfect. With no subpoena power comes no real power. USC was innocent just like OJ and Casey Anthony.

    What does Michigan have to do with anything? I'm not holding Michigan's academic prowess or upstanding moral code above anyone else. That's you chica.

    I'm not playing stupid and ignorant, just keeping a fan base that is evidently full of delusion in check.

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  • Zzyzx Rd. said...

    Baseball gives compensation picks each season to teams that couldn't sign their draft pics. That's a better analogy.

    Nope.....The NFC East from now on will have 7-14 more draft picks and sort through them accordingly and cut the excess then we have a level playing field right?

    This post was edited by Notorious URB on 2/15/2012 at 4:24 PM

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  • Webberlang said...

    Tennessee is complete garbage

    Ignorance is pure bliss....

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  • orangeasylum said...

    Ignorance is pure bliss....

    Dude, they got beat 2 yrs ago by UNC's practice squad in a bowl game and didnt make a bowl this yr....they arent good at all. Don't be a homer and tell me otherwise.

    This post was edited by Notorious URB on 2/15/2012 at 4:25 PM

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  • Webberlang said...

    Nope.....The NFC East from now on will have 7-14 more draft picks and sort through them accordingly and cut the excess then we have a level playing field right?

    Not at all a decent analogy, but believe what you choose to believe. After all, the overwhiners arent pushing rules that would hurt anyone...except the players and the schools and pretty much everyone involved.

    If you want to pretend there's some unfairness going on, then maybe the better analogy would be that the NL West chooses to decline any available compensation picks.

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  • Webberlang said...

    Dude, they got beat 2 yrs ago by UNC's practice squad in a bowl game and didnt make a bowl this yr....they arent good at all. Don't be a homer and tell me otherwise.

    You actually don't know what's going with the program.... So there is no reason to debate it.... Tennessee will be fine.... It's not about being a homer...Tennessee has talent ... More of it is on the offensive side, but they will be just fine. It's just been a rough rebuilding deal the last two years. How many freshmen were playing in that loss to UNC?

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  • Zzyzx Rd. said...

    Not at all a decent analogy, but believe what you choose to believe. After all, the overwhiners arent pushing rules that would hurt anyone...except the players and the schools and pretty much everyone involved.

    If you want to pretend there's some unfairness going on, then maybe the better analogy would be that the NL West chooses to decline any available compensation picks.

    How wasn't that a decent analogy? Please explain the difference of what I said to what was previously going on in the sec..... so you think its ok that certain schools can sign extra players and wait to weed them out later and the remaining schools aren't allowed to practice this? You most certainly have to be kidding. (hopefully)

    And to try to compare MLB to college football is the WORST analogy ever.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Notorious URB on 2/15/2012 at 4:46 PM

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  • orangeasylum said...

    You actually don't know what's going with the program.... So there is no reason to debate it.... Tennessee will be fine.... It's not about being a homer...Tennessee has talent ... More of it is on the offensive side, but they will be just fine. It's just been a rough rebuilding deal the last two years. How many freshmen were playing in that loss to UNC?

    Obviously Dooley is mad he can't oversign anymore and that leads me to believe they aren't heading in the right direction....Sounds like Dooley is having a hard time going after quality kids.

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  • Webberlang said...

    How wasn't that a decent analogy? Please explain the difference of what I said to what was previously going on in the sec..... so you think its ok that certain schools can sign extra players and wait to weed them out later and the remaining schools aren't allowed to practice this? You most certainly have to be kidding. (hopefully)

    And to try to compare MLB to college football is the WORST analogy ever.

    Before we carry this any further, please tell me what you think happens when someone "oversigns". If you accuse a coach of that, what, specifically, are you saying he did? I still don't think you know what you're arguing against.

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  • Zzyzx Rd. said...

    Before we carry this any further, please tell me what you think happens when someone "oversigns". If you accuse a coach of that, what, specifically, are you saying he did? I still don't think you know what you're arguing against.

    Oversign means you sign more people than your allowed to....am I wrong? ( and if I am not then please explain how my analogy was wrong or not having any resemblance of what goes on in the sec)

    You were trying to justify oversigning as if it doesnt offer any type of advantage.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Notorious URB on 2/15/2012 at 4:55 PM

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  • Webberlang said...

    Obviously Dooley is mad he can't oversign anymore and that leads me to believe they aren't heading in the right direction....Sounds like Dooley is having a hard time going after quality kids.

    Really? He had two top 15 recruiting classes before the 2012 class. He didn't even sign a full class this year and it was a top 20 class with a one 5 star player and a great wr class. Are you seriously going to go there?

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  • Webberlang said...

    Oversign means you sign more people than your allowed to....am I wrong? ( and if I am not then please explain how my analogy was wrong or not having any resemblance of what goes on in the sec)

    You were trying to justify oversigning as if it doesnt offer any type of advantage.

    Sign more than you're "allowed" to. OK. Fair enough, Mr. Webster. Allowed to by whom?

    This post was edited by bvg153555 on 2/15/2012 at 5:10 PM

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  • orangeasylum said...

    Really? He had two top 15 recruiting classes before the 2012 class. He didn't even sign a full class this year and it was a top 20 class with a one 5 star player and a great wr class. Are you seriously going to go there?

    good ups for sure +1

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