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Derick Henry

  • Nicolae said...

    Saban is telling Henry he is going to play RB or Henry wouldn't be listening. Which...it is arguable how much he actually is listening anyway. He is dead set on playing running back, though.

    Don't see him staying at RB, but look at FSU's guy. Would be dumb move, IMO..

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  • Nicolae said...

    Saban is telling Henry he is going to play RB or Henry wouldn't be listening. Which...it is arguable how much he actually is listening anyway. He is dead set on playing running back, though.

    Given that three backs in the class has already been established and we would take both Kamara and Henry (in addition to Tenpenny and Jones), it is possible the following happen: we take Tenpenny,Jones,Kamara and Henry (with possibly Kamara not playing RB); Tenpenny,Jones,Kamara;Tenpenny,Jones,Henry; or just Tenpenny and Jones.

    Both Kamara and Henry could start out at RB and see how that plays out with the possibility of one or both moving to a different position on offense (like Brent Calloway).

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Given that three backs in the class has already been established and we would take both Kamara and Henry (in addition to Tenpenny and Jones), it is possible the following happen: we take Tenpenny,Jones,Kamara and Henry (with possibly Kamara not playing RB); Tenpenny,Jones,Kamara;Tenpenny,Jones,Henry; or just Tenpenny and Jones.

    Both Kamara and Henry could start out at RB and see how that plays out with the possibility of one or both moving to a different position on offense (like Brent Calloway).

    I agree Henry may switch positions after getting to a school. TE would be my choice as I think he could be a All American at that position and almost wish he was coming in as a TE, but LB is possible. I am just saying that right now he is not considering switching from RB and any school telling him they are planning to move him from RB is not getting serious consideration from him. So obviously Saban is telling him he will have a shot at RB...that or Henry is just messing with everyone about Bama.

    Also, I know what all has been said and everyone claims to be ok with 3 backs, but if Henry were to flip, I would almost guarantee that Tyren or Altee flips somewhere too.

    Nicolae

  • Nicolae said...

    I agree Henry may switch positions after getting to a school. TE would be my choice as I think he could be a All American at that position and almost wish he was coming in as a TE, but LB is possible. I am just saying that right now he is not considering switching from RB and any school telling him they are planning to move him from RB is not getting serious consideration from him. So obviously Saban is telling him he will have a shot at RB...that or Henry is just messing with everyone about Bama.

    Also, I know what all has been said and everyone claims to be ok with 3 backs, but if Henry were to flip, I would almost guarantee that Tyren or Altee flips somewhere too.

    I don't think it's anywhere near guaranteed. Seeing how they've already been told this, they know we are recruiting other backs,and they already know out depth at RB and still committed, I don't see why they would be scared by one more commitment from a guy who probably won't even end up at RB.

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  • Nicolae said...

    I agree Henry may switch positions after getting to a school. TE would be my choice as I think he could be a All American at that position and almost wish he was coming in as a TE, but LB is possible. I am just saying that right now he is not considering switching from RB and any school telling him they are planning to move him from RB is not getting serious consideration from him. So obviously Saban is telling him he will have a shot at RB...that or Henry is just messing with everyone about Bama.

    Also, I know what all has been said and everyone claims to be ok with 3 backs, but if Henry were to flip, I would almost guarantee that Tyren or Altee flips somewhere too.

    If they do then it will have nothing to do with Henry or Kamara. They have know then entire time this was the plan.

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  • star69 said...

    Don't see him staying at RB, but look at FSU's guy. Would be dumb move, IMO..

    Are you talking about James Wilder Jr, if so he has yet been given a real chance, he carried the ball 30 times as a freshman..... lets at least give him a fair shake before saying he made a mistake... besides FSU doesn't have a power back besides Wilder...

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Given that three backs in the class has already been established and we would take both Kamara and Henry (in addition to Tenpenny and Jones), it is possible the following happen: we take Tenpenny,Jones,Kamara and Henry (with possibly Kamara not playing RB); Tenpenny,Jones,Kamara;Tenpenny,Jones,Henry; or just Tenpenny and Jones.

    Both Kamara and Henry could start out at RB and see how that plays out with the possibility of one or both moving to a different position on offense (like Brent Calloway).

    bingo

    the staff isnt going to turn down Henry or Kamara & would love to have both but with our #'s for 13 my gut says we might get one of the two, maybe.

    Crimson_Ghost

  • heatheatheat said...

    Jones solid to Bama. Coaching staff was upfront and told him they might bring in 3 backs before he even committed. Also, Jones not really concerned about the backs that are coming in with him in his class. He feels confident he will separate himself from the pack. Kid is a baller and confident in his abilities. Never has shyed away from competition. A lot more to his evaluation than depth chart and Alabama offers him what he is looking for. Georgia off-field issues, particularly with their RB's in recent past, didn't do them any favors. Something seems broken over there, real or perceived. [Not here to judge] Also the Bama track record of late with their RBs is hard to argue with. Again, solid Bama.

    I would agree with everything you said except the broken part. We had one guy who got a few traffic tickets and got pushed way down the depth chart and he left. Another guy we had struggled every season getting his GPA high enough and missed it for his last year. He went in supplemental draft and went to Vikings. That happened in one year... last year. I wouldn't say anything is broken, especially looking at the stable of backs we have now. But as far as Tyren, he was very interested in us at a time, and our depth did run him off. You can refuse to hear this if you want but I'm just relaying information that we have been given, that there is interest.

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  • crimsonwolfe said...

    Hanging on to Tyren Jones may also be tough. If we can only have one, who do we take? Do you turn down Henry to keep Jones? That just doesn't seem right.

    Watch the runs shown when you immediately access each link. Please show me a comparable RB in the 2013 class.

    Run #1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pxSoZQ5WZbA#t=358s

    Run #2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eSSyc3lo5As#t=312s

    Run #3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eSSyc3lo5As#t=273s

    Jabrill Peppers...More I watch, the more I'm convinced he is the best player in the 2014 class. Barring injury, he will do special things.

    BamaBornDukie

  • rolltide06 said...

    Looking at what we got on campus, a player has to be a little worried about the depth chart. Also, I just don't see Henry as a RB on the next level. He's a better athlete than RB and reminds me a lot of Richard Samuel coming out of high school.

    Like heatheatheat stated.....Tyren Jones need NOT worry about Bama's depth chart. If you know how to evaluate RBs you know why.

    Jabrill Peppers...More I watch, the more I'm convinced he is the best player in the 2014 class. Barring injury, he will do special things.

    BamaBornDukie

  • Also to everyone saying Henry is not a RB and will never play RB, I dont think you guys know much about the situation. A safer bet would be that if he went somewhere and RB didn't work out for some reason, and he was asked/urged to change positions, he would transfer. That's not insider info, just my educated opinion, but I have feared this from day 1 with Henry. I think he will be a successful running back in college. His comparisions to Samuel are not very fair due to them not being the same people. They have similar measurables but it's obvious to anyone who watches that Henry has better feet and balance than Samuel.

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  • jkt360 said...

    I would agree with everything you said except the broken part. We had one guy who got a few traffic tickets and got pushed way down the depth chart and he left. Another guy we had struggled every season getting his GPA high enough and missed it for his last year. He went in supplemental draft and went to Vikings. That happened in one year... last year. I wouldn't say anything is broken, especially looking at the stable of backs we have now. But as far as Tyren, he was very interested in us at a time, and our depth did run him off. You can refuse to hear this if you want but I'm just relaying information that we have been given, that there is interest.

    How the hell is UGA's RB Depth Chart deeper than Bama's? Break it down for us "slow" people because I don't see it.

    I can also assure you 100% that HeatHeatHeat has way more knowledge than Tyren Jones than you do......and it's by a large amount.

    LMAO folks on message boards calling out people as being wrong about recruits.....when the folks they are saying are wrong deal with said recruits basically daily.

    Still SMDH that you are telling HeatHeatHeat he's wrong about Tyren's interest.

    This post was edited by BamaBornDukie on 6/1/2012 at 7:44 AM

    Jabrill Peppers...More I watch, the more I'm convinced he is the best player in the 2014 class. Barring injury, he will do special things.

    BamaBornDukie

  • BamaBornDukie said...

    Watch the runs shown when you immediately access each link. Please show me a comparable RB in the 2013 class.

    Run #1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pxSoZQ5WZbA#t=358s

    Run #2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eSSyc3lo5As#t=312s

    Run #3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eSSyc3lo5As#t=273s

    I agree, you want Jones. If you want to compare him to someone check out Caleb King's video.

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  • jkt360 said...

    I agree, you want Jones. If you want to compare him to someone check out Caleb King's video.

    Bro....I've seen/scouted all the best RBs in Georgia over the past 10-12 years....Caleb King and Tyren are different runners in that Tyren is 5'9", 205 pounds with wiggle while Caleb King was 5'11", 185 pounds as a high school senior.

    Big difference in the power/strength with a RB 2 inches shorter but also 20 pounds heavier. Height is not a factor when assessing RBs.....BMI is.....See Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson for reference.

    Jabrill Peppers...More I watch, the more I'm convinced he is the best player in the 2014 class. Barring injury, he will do special things.

    BamaBornDukie

  • jkt360 said...

    Also to everyone saying Henry is not a RB and will never play RB, I dont think you guys know much about the situation. A safer bet would be that if he went somewhere and RB didn't work out for some reason, and he was asked/urged to change positions, he would transfer. That's not insider info, just my educated opinion, but I have feared this from day 1 with Henry. I think he will be a successful running back in college. His comparisions to Samuel are not very fair due to them not being the same people. They have similar measurables but it's obvious to anyone who watches that Henry has better feet and balance than Samuel.

    Henry is NOT an SEC-Level RB....Saw him against Buford in 2011 [a team with players on defense actually his size] and I saw all I needed to see.

    IF you will only play RB in college.....you guys can have him at UGA.

    Jabrill Peppers...More I watch, the more I'm convinced he is the best player in the 2014 class. Barring injury, he will do special things.

    BamaBornDukie

  • BamaBornDukie said...

    How the hell is UGA's RB Depth Chart deeper than Bama's? Break it down for us "slow" people because I don't see it.

    With Henry committed, and at the time of Jones commitment to Alabama, we have 3 five stars who by different recruiting companies were all at some point in time were ranked #1 back in the nation. We have another guy who came on late in recruiting and barely missed five star status but many argue that he is better than our other backs, and a guy who will be a RSJR who knows the system and is a solid back with about the same measureables as Jones, just a little slower. [Shrug]
    Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just telling you what we've been told and we're told all of last season when we were considered a favorite for Jones.

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  • BamaBornDukie said...

    Henry is NOT an SEC-Level RB....Saw him against Buford in 2011 [a team with players on defense actually his size] and I saw all I needed to see.

    IF you will only play RB in college.....you guys can have him at UGA.

    shrug I'm afraid that's all he'll play.

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  • BamaBornDukie said...

    Bro....I've seen/scouted all the best RBs in Georgia over the past 10-12 years....Caleb King and Tyren are different runners in that Tyren is 5'9", 205 pounds with wiggle while Caleb King was 5'11", 185 pounds as a high school senior.

    Big difference in the power/strength with a RB 2 inches shorter but also 20 pounds heavier. Height is not a factor when assessing RBs.....BMI is.....See Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson for reference.

    Well you disagree with some pretty highly paid scouters... shrug. By seen scouted, you do mean as an amateur, am I correct? It sound like you closed your opinion on it because of size. BTW Caleb King may have pushed 5-10.5 but I doubt it. He played college ball at 215. Yeah their bodies are different but I feel like if you would look at the film, you might agree.

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  • BamaBornDukie said...

    How the hell is UGA's RB Depth Chart deeper than Bama's? Break it down for us "slow" people because I don't see it.

    I can also assure you 100% that HeatHeatHeat has way more knowledge than Tyren Jones than you do......and it's by a large amount.

    LMAO folks on message boards calling out people as being wrong about recruits.....when the folks they are saying are wrong deal with said recruits basically daily.

    Still SMDH that you are telling HeatHeatHeat he's wrong about Tyren's interest.

    Heatheatheat told me a lot when he assessed our history of backes by judging 1 year of backs. And TBH I doubt heatheatheat knows as much as the guy who gives the information I just relayed because heatheatheat pays for a subscription to this guys employer.

    Not sure why you called yourself slow either.

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  • jkt360 said...

    With Henry committed, and at the time of Jones commitment to Alabama, we have 3 five stars who by different recruiting companies were all at some point in time were ranked #1 back in the nation. We have another guy who came on late in recruiting and barely missed five star status but many argue that he is better than our other backs, and a guy who will be a RSJR who knows the system and is a solid back with about the same measureables as Jones, just a little slower. [Shrug] Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just telling you what we've been told and we're told all of last season when we were considered a favorite for Jones.

    Bro....just being real...I'll take my personal evaluation of RBs over any of these recruiting sites. UGA's depth is no stronger than Bama's. Take a look at how these various sites have faired over the years when evaluating RBs and how many of their top 10 each year have been drafted into the NFL....let alone been Pro Bowlers.

    Over the last 7 years...of the Rivals top 10 RBs and the 10 All-Purpose RBs for each year (so a total of 20 RBs each year......so 20*7= 140 RBs).......Only 5 out of 140 has ever made the Pro Bowl.......and only about 12-15% of the 140 were even drafted into the NFL. So pardon me if I don't give their rankings much credence....because they suck.

    Bama
    4*)Eddie Lacy (rSR)- Saying he does not go pro this year
    (5*)TJ Yeldon (SO)
    (4*) Jalston Fowler (SR)
    (5*) Dee Hart (rSO)
    (4*) Kenyan Drake (rFR)

    (5*) Derrick Henry (FR)
    (4*) Tyren Jones (FR)
    (4*) Altee Tenpenny (FR)

    ****Again....rankings don't mean ISH to me but I included here as I copied the listing from an earlier post in this thread. I don't see where UGA's depth-chart is better than Bama's.

    Of all the UGA RBs.....I think Todd Gurley [if healthy] will be the most successful.
    -Crowell- "Headcase"...........
    -Marshall- Great Character, Great Athlete but not a natural RB's build as he's had to work very hard to gain weight as he is naturally about 190 pounds with thin, sprinter legs.

    Let's see which backfield [Bama's or UGA's] puts up more rushing yards and TDs and has the most high round draft selections from their current RBs.

    Jabrill Peppers...More I watch, the more I'm convinced he is the best player in the 2014 class. Barring injury, he will do special things.

    BamaBornDukie

  • jkt360 said...

    Heatheatheat told me a lot when he assessed our history of backes by judging 1 year of backs. And TBH I doubt heatheatheat knows as much as the guy who gives the information I just relayed because heatheatheat pays for a subscription to this guys employer.

    Not sure why you called yourself slow either.

    I "promise" you heatheatheat knows more about Tyren's situation than any recruiting analyst. I promise you that.....and I'm done about his knowledge of Tyren. He can expound if he chooses to do so. If not....just know he knows very well what he is talking about...

    This post was edited by BamaBornDukie on 6/1/2012 at 8:08 AM

    Jabrill Peppers...More I watch, the more I'm convinced he is the best player in the 2014 class. Barring injury, he will do special things.

    BamaBornDukie

  • jkt360 said...

    Well you disagree with some pretty highly paid scouters... shrug. By seen scouted, you do mean as an amateur, am I correct? It sound like you closed your opinion on it because of size. BTW Caleb King may have pushed 5-10.5 but I doubt it. He played college ball at 215. Yeah their bodies are different but I feel like if you would look at the film, you might agree.

    Let's just say there is a good chance I'll be dealing with salary caps and evaluating players at a higher level in the near future....Wouldn't have that opportunity if I didn't know how to evaluate football players as well as being pretty good at Finance/Accounting/Contracts and I'll leave it at that [because nothing in life is guaranteed but death]. .

    Jabrill Peppers...More I watch, the more I'm convinced he is the best player in the 2014 class. Barring injury, he will do special things.

    BamaBornDukie

  • BamaBornDukie said...

    Bro....just being real...I'll take my personal evaluation of RBs over any of these recruiting sites. UGA's depth is no stronger than Bama's. Take a look at how these various sites have faired over the years when evaluating RBs and how many of their top 10 each year have been drafted into the NFL....let alone been Pro Bowlers.

    Over the last 7 years...of the Rivals top 10 RBs and the 10 All-Purpose RBs for each year (so a total of 20 RBs each year......so 20*7= 140 RBs).......Only 5 out of 140 has ever made the Pro Bowl.......and only about 12-15% of the 140 were even drafted into the NFL. So pardon me if I don't give their rankings much credence....because they suck.

    Bama 4*)Eddie Lacy (rSR)- Saying he does not go pro this year (5*)TJ Yeldon (SO) (4*) Jalston Fowler (SR) (5*) Dee Hart (rSO) (4*) Kenyan Drake (rFR)

    (5*) Derrick Henry (FR) (4*) Tyren Jones (FR) (4*) Altee Tenpenny (FR)

    ****Again....rankings don't mean ISH to me but I included here as I copied the listing from an earlier post in this thread. I don't see where UGA's depth-chart is better than Bama's.

    Of all the UGA RBs.....I think Todd Gurley [if healthy] will be the most successful. -Crowell- "Headcase"........... -Marshall- Great Character, Great Athlete but not a natural RB's build as he's had to work very hard to gain weight as he is naturally about 190 pounds with thin, sprinter legs.

    Let's see which backfield [Bama's or UGA's] puts up more rushing yards and TDs and has the most high round draft selections from their current RBs.

    your evaluation of the UGA backs is all I need to see. Good luck in you future scouting or whatever it is. I will keep listening to the people who both you and I give money to for information, especially when they say it came directly from the horse's mouth.

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  • It amazes me how over-rated this kid is

    He is also not a RB

    Im not saying wilder is or will be a great one

    But Wilder > Henry in every phase of the game

    RB, LB... Whatever, this kid can't hold Wilder's jock

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 6/1/2012 at 8:55 AM

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  • jkt360 said... Good luck in you future scouting or whatever it is. I will keep listening to the people who both you and I give money to for information

    lol that is your first mistake

    I freaking hate posters like you, rather ride the coattails of nerds than make an opinion for yourself

    You're a fag dude, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.... Well, maybe not in your case

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