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  • NoVaNoles said...

    No he doesn't

    He is anything but suck ass in terms of coaching, in fact he is pretty much the exact opposite and has the respect of nearly everybody that has ever worked with him

    Ill say again, he lost 3 starters for the season... all were all american caliber or just flat out all americans

    He is sending a host of players to the NFL this year, has already sent 2 QB's to the NFL in 6 years at FSU

    His son is dying and yet he still works his ass off and he just won his conference... something Hoke hasn't done, and as I mentioned he can't even do it with Ohio State ineligible

    Jimbo hasn't proven to be elite or nothing, not yet anyways.... but saying he sucks is clear proof that you are canadian

    Lol.

    Guy can't get his talented team up for lackluster teams. Definition of an average coach.

    Saying he's anything more than average is clear proof you are an FSU homer sometimes.

    Plus how many times are you going to change your opinion on Jimbo? Is he elite, good, or does he suck. Heard everyone of those many times from you.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    And you can't come up with anything creative, so you copy and paste a joke that has been said over and over again

    FSU lost by 1 point, meanwhile Michigan lost 4 games and embarrassed themselves on the national stage every single time they played in front of america... Jimbo ? not so much for he was at least 2-2.... not 0-4

    Then you gotta factor in Michigan can't even win the Big10 in a year Ohio State isn't even eligible, now that is pathetic on so many levels

    Meyer literally came in, plugged in a new QB and already took over the rivalry again roflmao

    A. It's not a joke that you lost to NCST. It's a fact. Ok, well, I admit ... it's also a joke.

    B. Urbie didn't plug in a new QB. His QB was the returning starter from the previous season. If you are going to troll, at least try to get the basic facts right. Factually inaccurate trolling is as amateurish as Jimbo's coaching.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    lmao at how incredibly stupid you are, that was an obvious sarcastic joke

    Congrats on falling for the most obvious troll I set up in weeks, you Bama fans are too god damn easy roflmao

    You shouldn't say GD, NoVa. Try something else. It can be just as effective.

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  • TAMUWolverine said...

    I'm just using your moronic logic, because clearly it doesn't matter which school the record is at correct? I mean if Jimbo had a 31-10 record at North Texas, it still would only be as impressive as his 31-10 record at FSU, because clearly other factors such as school prestige, ability to recruit at a school, fan support, academics, etc. have no bearing on how a coaches record should be judged at a school.

    Your head coach took over for the 2nd all time winningest coach in history, is in the state with the most talent(according to yourself), plays in one of the weakest conferences in football, still can't beat NC State and you want people to be impressed by that? Oh, I see now, I'm the moron, clearly.


    Again, since you can't read and are all pissed off I try to explain it again

    I never said it was impressive, Im talking about his whole body of work in the 3 years at FSU... not 1 of his 2 losses this season that came when FSU's best OL was hurt for the game and they lost by 1 point on a final drive where Stoops defense gave up 3 4th down conversions

    Also Bowden is the winningest coach in history smart guy, and did anything but leave Jimbo the keys to a successfully running program

    But clearly you don't know shit about FSU, this much is obvious

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    Lol.

    Guy can't get his talented team up for lackluster teams. Definition of an average coach.

    Saying he's anything more than average is clear proof you are an FSU homer sometimes.

    Plus how many times are you going to change your opinion on Jimbo? Is he elite, good, or does he suck. Heard everyone of those many times from you.

    Can't get his team up for lackluster teams ?

    So then the 12 wins don't count ? That makes sense, just the 1 point loss early in the year without its best OL

    No you haven't either, I have had the same stance on Jimbo all year, and blamed him for nothing this season

    But you can pretend otherwise based on the fact you can't read or decipher what is a serious post and what is an obvious sarcastic joke

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  • MrWoodson said...

    A. It's not a joke that you lost to NCST. It's a fact. Ok, well, I admit ... it's also a joke.

    B. Urbie didn't plug in a new QB. His QB was the returning starter from the previous season. If you are going to troll, at least try to get the basic facts right. Factually inaccurate trolling is as amateurish as Jimbo's coaching.

    Okay Ill give it a try

    Michigan was 1-5 against teams with a winning record this season ? that correct ?

    Meanwhile FSU was 4-2

    Its not a joke that Michigan hasn't won its conference in almost 10 years though, and the Big 10 is worse than the ACC by a solid margin, at least until Ohio State comes back next year for everybody knows they are the only school that can play real football

    Also speaking of jokes, really really funny ones

    Lets play some trivia.... name the only 2 schools that have lost to D2 schools at home.... here is a hint, Michigan is one of them, and FSU isn't the other roflmao

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    lmao at how incredibly stupid you are, that was an obvious sarcastic joke

    Congrats on falling for the most obvious troll I set up in weeks, you Bama fans are too god damn easy roflmao

    I didn't know you were being sarcastic. I assumed people came here to talk real football, but thanks for going overboard by calling me stupid, insulting me and then cussing our fanbase.

    The 247 staff said less than 24 hours ago that insults + profanity = easy ban. Lets see if they clean this board up as promised.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Can't get his team up for lackluster teams ?

    So then the 12 wins don't count ? That makes sense, just the 1 point loss early in the year without its best OL

    No you haven't either, I have had the same stance on Jimbo all year, and blamed him for nothing this season

    But you can pretend otherwise based on the fact you can't read or decipher what is a serious post and what is an obvious sarcastic joke

    12 wins count, but it shows Fisher can't get his team up every week. A good coach doesn't lose to a team that isn't even close in terms of talent on the field. Make excuses about injuries all you want, but with or without that OL, you still have a more talented team.

    Also if you can use that OL as an excuse, can Michigan fans point to losing our best CB for losing every game after the Bama game? Using injuries is ghey as hell, thought you were better than that.

    It's hard to tell when you are joking and when you are being serious because you always just claim to be trolling when you are wrong and look like a dumbass.

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  • Red Goodman said...

    I didn't know you were being sarcastic. I assumed people came here to talk real football, but thanks for going overboard by calling me stupid, insulting me and then cussing our fanbase.

    The 247 staff said less than 24 hours ago that insults + profanity = easy ban. Lets see if they clean this board up as promised.

    Ill get banned eventually so relax, and you're welcome on the name calling... its what I do, now you can either STFU, go snitch on me to the mods or just back out of the thread with your anus intact

    Your move

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  • 92DT said...

    You shouldn't say GD, NoVa. Try something else. It can be just as effective.

    I agree. Why the 247 staff would allow him to use the word GD (which he's done more than once) is beyond me. Just because he isn't religious doesn't mean he can spit in the faces of those who are.

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  • Red Goodman said...

    I agree. Why the 247 staff would allow him to use the word GD (which he's done more than once) is beyond me. Just because he isn't religious doesn't mean he can spit in the faces of those who are.

    Who says Im not religious, I pray every single night to satan

    God bless america and the freedom of religion you know what I mean ?

    Ill god damn all the imaginary characters I want mane, the internet is the perfect place for it

    Where else can you do this and watch a bible belt Bama fan cry about it roflmao

    Better grab that bible and clutch it tight or else Im gonna get ya [devil]

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Who says Im not religious, I pray every single night to satan

    God bless america and the freedom of religion you know what I mean ?

    Ill god damn all the imaginary characters I want mane, the internet is the perfect place for it

    Where else can you do this and watch a bible belt Bama fan cry about it roflmao

    Better grab that bible and clutch it tight or else Im gonna get ya [devil]

    Ok this post is early nominee for POTY.

    Despite constant head butting with you Nova, you crack me up.

    Well done.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Ill get banned eventually so relax, and you're welcome on the name calling... its what I do, now you can either STFU, go snitch on me to the mods or just back out of the thread with your anus intact

    Your move

    Here's a thought, you could grow up and we could all enjoy this board together because the "I'm too cool" act is old. If 90% of your posts are trolls, name calling, profanity, insults etc then I can't think of one good reason the 247 staff would want you here. Why would they ever risk keeping you and losing 30 respectful customers who have at least some manners?

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    12 wins count, but it shows Fisher can't get his team up every week. A good coach doesn't lose to a team that isn't even close in terms of talent on the field. Make excuses about injuries all you want, but with or without that OL, you still have a more talented team.

    Also if you can use that OL as an excuse, can Michigan fans point to losing our best CB for losing every game after the Bama game? Using injuries is ghey as hell, thought you were better than that.

    It's hard to tell when you are joking and when you are being serious because you always just claim to be trolling when you are wrong and look like a dumbass.

    Like when Lloyd Carr lost to App State ?

    And lolz at that ending, that is just what people like you say in order to come at me due to having nothing else

    Using injuries is also not gay as hell if you know why you are using the excuse, what is gay as hell is commenting on a game you didn't watch and acting like you know what happened

    Fact is FSU lost that game mainly cause their RT and best OL was out for the game, and if you remember I said all offseason long that one injury on the OL would result in disaster.... and as usual, I was deadly accurate in that prediction

    Using the injury excuse for game after game is weak, but knowing that your best OL would have been the difference in running the clock out late in a game to get the W is a solid excuse cause its reality

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 1/22/2013 at 9:55 AM

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  • Red Goodman said...

    Here's a thought, you could grow up and we could all enjoy this board together because the "I'm too cool" act is old. If 90% of your posts are trolls, name calling, profanity, insults etc then I can't think of one good reason the 247 staff would want you here. Why would they ever risk keeping you and losing 30 respectful customers who have at least some manners?

    roflmao

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    Ok this post is early nominee for POTY.

    Despite constant head butting with you Nova, you crack me up.

    Well done.

    We cool man, you know it

    Only a total idiot takes football banter seriously or to the heart, you also know that I like michigan

    This whole thread was an obvious troll, Im not sure why you jumped in and fell for it but clearly the Hoke comments got ya

    Its all good as usual, wanted it to be Bama fans but somehow this thang got sidetracked

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 1/22/2013 at 10:00 AM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Like when Lloyd Carr lost to App State ?

    And lolz at that ending, that is just what people like you say in order to come at me due to having nothing else

    Using injuries is also not gay as hell if you know why you are using the excuse, what is gay as hell is commenting on a game you didn't watch and acting like you know what happened

    Fact is FSU lost that game mainly cause their RT and best OL was out for the game, and if you remember I said all offseason long that one injury on the OL would result in disaster.... and as usual, I was deadly accurate in that prediction

    Using the injury excuse for game after game is weak, but knowing that your best OL would have been the difference in running the clock out late in a game to get the W is a solid excuse cause its reality

    So can I at least use Countess being out as an excuse for USC loss in Bowl Game?

    We wouldn't have gotten torched so hard, so regularly, by the deep ball if Countess was healthy.

    Lol at your point about not watching games.

    Considering the amount of definitive statements you toss about certain players, it's more than safe to say you have made conclusions on games you didn't watch.

    FSU was more talented than NCSU and lost. That's fact. Sugarcoat it anyway you want to give Jimbo an out.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    We cool man, you know it

    Only a total idiot takes football banter seriously or to the heart, you also know that I like michigan

    This whole thread was an obvious troll, Im not sure why you jumped in and fell for it but clearly the Hoke comments got ya

    I'm sensitive when people bring up Hoke's track record.

    It was shit, but so were the schools he coaches at.

    You got me.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Who says Im not religious, I pray every single night to satan

    God bless america and the freedom of religion you know what I mean ?

    Ill god damn all the imaginary characters I want mane, the internet is the perfect place for it

    Where else can you do this and watch a bible belt Bama fan cry about it roflmao

    Better grab that bible and clutch it tight or else Im gonna get ya [devil]

    It truly is sad you have to result to this type of behavior in almost all of your posts. You don't believe in God, fine that's a-ok. But why use his name in vein and spit in the face of those who do? Why troll and cuss people nonstop? Why sound completely ignorant so that when you get corrected you can cuss people and tell them that "THEY" are stupid and have just been trolled by the greatest ever? There is no way I would want you at 247sports if you couldn't act better than that. I don't run this place though, maybe you do? Seems that way.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Red Goodman on 1/22/2013 at 10:05 AM

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    So can I at least use Countess being out as an excuse for USC loss in Bowl Game?

    We wouldn't have gotten torched so hard, so regularly, by the deep ball if Countess was healthy.

    Lol at your point about not watching games.

    Considering the amount of definitive statements you toss about certain players, it's more than safe to say you have made conclusions on games you didn't watch.

    FSU was more talented than NCSU and lost. That's fact. Sugarcoat it anyway you want to give Jimbo an out.

    You would be surprised at how many games I watch

    As for the NC ST game, FSU was up 16-0 at the half and Jimbo tried to play conservative cause he never trusted EJ

    Very understandable imo, however Watson being out killed FSU in that second half and on the last drive FSU couldn't run for a 1st down to run out the clock and yes, they tried to run to his replacements side and got stuffed

    You should know by my trolls of FSU's OL that the depth is the clear weakness of the 2012 Noles

    But no matter how you look at it, this season was a roaring success.... only national media and idiots actually thought FSU was a legit national title contender, I know I never did

    Yet they went 12-2 and both loses came late in the 4th quarters, they clean up these little problems and get a real QB that doesn't fold under pressure and you are looking at a national title contender from here on out

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  • Red Goodman said...

    It truly is sad you have to result to this type of behavior in almost a of your posts. You don't believe in God, fine that's a-ok. But why use his name in vein and spit in the face of those who do? Why troll and cuss people nonstop? Why sound compmety ignorant so that when you get corrected you can cuss peolle and tell them that "THEY" are stupid and have just been trolled by the greatest ever? There is no way I would want you at 247sports if you couldn't act better than that. I don't run this place though, maybe you do? Seems that way.

    Again how do you know Im not spiritual ? cause I have fun on the internet ?

    Or are you one of those types that think god is only what you call god ?

    And the answer to your stupid questions is cause watching people like you get all hot and bothered at your computer screen is beyond funny to me

    Thank god you don't run this place, freaking nuns would be posting in no time at all

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    I'm sensitive when people bring up Hoke's track record.

    It was shit, but so were the schools he coaches at.

    You got me.

    I hear you, same way people bashing Jimbo for being a success bothers me

    The man has a dying kid and still manages to find enough heart to win the ACC

    The dude is everything that is right with college football and in todays landscape these kinds of coaches are few and far between, all he needs to do is check his ego a bit and hire a play caller and it should be smooth sailing from here on out

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Again how do you know Im not spiritual ? cause I have fun on the internet ?

    Or are you one of those types that think god is only what you call god ?

    And the answer to your stupid questions is cause watching people like you get all hot and bothered at your computer screen is beyond funny to me

    Thank god you don't run this place, freaking nuns would be posting in no time at all

    Who said I believed in any God? Nuns? Are you serious? No one said don't have fun, read again. There you go again cool guy. You assumed I was this or that, here or there, because I think you should show just an ounce of respect to people when posting. Nothing you could do makes me mad as you would like to think, wow, how weak would that be.

    This post was edited by Red Goodman on 1/22/2013 at 10:11 AM

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  • Red Goodman said...

    Who said I believed in any God? Nuns? Are you serious? No one said don't have fun, read again. There you go again cool guy. You assumed I was this or that, here or there, because I think you should show just an ounce of respect to people when posting. Nothing you could do makes me mad as you would like to think, wow, how weak would that be.

    I respect who I want to respect, lolz at this hocus pocus idea that I need to show it to every faceless stranger I come across on the internets

    Sounds like a bunch of tom foolery to me

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