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I always bring this game up when I try to explain this stuff to nimrods.

I swear, it's as if they don't even remember this game took place.

Do any SEC teams play offense?

Well, since Oklahoma doesn't play in the Pac12, their overrated offense wasn't what I was answering to in this thread, but since you mentioned it, USC's defense did the same thing to OU in 2004, holding them to 19 pts, that after leading 55-10, not winning a close game 24-14 like Florida did.

Also, your point about Oregon doesn't hold water, because while Auburn did hold Oregon well below their avg, Oregon also held Auburn down well below their average of 40 pts ppg vs the supposed vaunted SEC defenses.
For both teams it was their 2nd lowest scoring game of the year, and Auburn doesn't score 22 or win without the help several blown calls. Oregon also scored more pts and won by a larger victory margin than any SEC team did in their 48-13 win at Tennessee. Not that Tenn was good, but nobody in the SEC demolished them like that.

Going by your logic, magically, you could say that when Auburn played a real defense, like Oregon from the Pac, instead of playing the weak defense in the SEC where they averaged over 40 ppg, they could only get a referee aided 22 pts. Auburn avg aprox 43ppg that year, and Oregon vs Pac10 defenses avg 44ppg.

I agree with what someone said earlier ITT, that USC hasn't played solid defense since 2008. That is very much true.

You maybe right if you are talking about this year alone, but I would wonder what conference does play any
defense this year considering-

The SEC is the so called standard but Texas A&M has navigated the SEC so easily that they are ranked top 15 or close to it and they gave up 57 pts to La. Tech. La Tech not Oregon, and 57 pts is 6 more pts than La Tech averages against the likes of Idaho, UNLV, New Mexico St, Rice etc.

Ole Miss has a winning record and SEC fans say they are actually good,
but they gave up 66 pts at home to Texas.
Georgia a top 10 team? lol gave up 44 pts to a shitty Tennessee team.
South Car. gave up 44 pts to an anemic offense like Florida although aided by turnovers,
and 35 to Tenn at home.

As poor as USC's defense has been, it's still better than anything in the Big Ten.
About the 10th best team in the Pac 12 scored 28 and lost by only 7 to the best Big Ten team Ohio St.
Cal couldn't reach double digits vs USC.

In fact, USC would probably have a top 10 defense this year, if they got to play Big Ten teams all year.
After seeing UCLA score 36 on Nebraska, and Michigan score 9 pts,
I think the over/under for Michigan points if they played USC would be 3.
Not trying to be a dick but Oregon would average 70 pts a game against a conf like the Big Ten.

False, they were close,
But 04 OU was better

USC is one of the great programs and it became great by playing great defense. Even Pete's best teams, although stocked full of offensive talent, were defensive teams at heart. If USC gets back to playing D like you used to, you will once again dominate the P12. Oregon is stoppable with an elite D (see OSU 2009, Auburn 2010, LSU 2011). But right now no one in the P12 is playing even good let alone great D. Stanford and UW are trying, but they don't have the talent. USC clearly has the talent. It's unfathomable how bad your D is with the talent you have.

Damn u make it too easy, lol.

Oregon- 4 turnovers
LSU- 1 turnover

The logic from the Auburn/Oregon gm was that Auburn did what they set out to do. They ran the ball, and stuffed Oregon's run. Your logic was something about the refs and luck. I guess that makes more sense to you.

I agree with what you say for the most part. Really, I don't think SC's defense is really that talented. CB is a weakness because the returning starter Wiley didn't stay eligible. The best DE USC has is sitting out the year with an injury. The DT and LB's are all pretty much Sophomores. As mentioned above, it's obviously a different team if Jarvis Jones and either Teo or Burfict are playing LB for SC right now. I would say next year will be better, but in 2 years SC defense will be back up to the CPC type standards.

But again, it's all relative to who you play. Does LSU have a great D? It's good this year, but when you get to play SEC offenses all year it's hard to say. I mean, Towson St, a D1aa school scored more points vs LSU than any of the 5 SEC teams have scored on them this year, and LSU played their starters the whole game.

Anyway, would I rather have USC's D over Michigan or any other Big Ten team right now? Yes

Let me slow this down for you:

Oregon is a running team. Auburn's strength on defense was their front 7, mainly the front 4.

Auburn limited Oregon to 2.3 yds/carry. Oregon's best player, by far, was LaMichael James. He had less than 50 yds.

Putting the gm on the arm of D. Thomas was what the Auburn defense wanted to accomplish.

The south must have gone back to segregated water fountains about 12 years ago then. Man, what a terrible step back for the south. LMAO about "southern defense".

The truth is since 2000, Pac12 teams have played 53 games vs Southern AQ teams (Including this year)
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PAC.....(32-21) 30.3 points per game vs the southern AQ's.
South...(21-32) 26.5 points per game vs PAC teams.

The Pac12 has averaged over 30 pts per game in the 53 games vs southern AQ's during the last dozen years.
So any time you hear "they play like a southern defense", that justs means they are the 2nd best defense and
they give up 4 more pts per game than a team from the best coast, the west coast.

Sorry folks, but no matter how many crystal balls you lick because of your WWF/Nascar-esque rigged BCS standings, the fact remains there are just better overall teams out west who play a combination of offense and defense. Your defenses look impressive because you play each other's inept offenses. If it wasn't true, the Pac12 wouldn't have won 60% of their games and score over 30 per game against southern AQ's since 2000.

Don't shoot the messenger. It just is what it is.
It is truth.

Coaching. Monte's a legend, but it's about that time. The fat lady has sung.

Historically you have national titles too....which you live to reminisce. And no...you don't know how to play on the side of the ball

Ya I know, I just wanted to troll for a Neck on that one,
and you won pole position, you pole smoker.