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  • bamagrad03 said...

    Most improved may be the case, but you opined earlier that the PAC never gets a pass. And I'm simply telling you why, and that USC often does.

    Do you think an SEC team would get by with playing the "most improved" card after losing like USC did? USC drops a game every year they shouldn't Until they stop doing that, they're not going to get a pass.

    That being said, you can't complain about not getting a pass, when you only beat 1 ranked team last year and finish #6 in the nation.

    Southern Cal has ZERO excuses for not making the BCS title game this year. None. Zip. Their schedule is a joke. They'll have 1 ranked team on their schedule at the end of the year. One.

    But I'll bet you this - right now...Southern Cal will lose a game. They'll be 11-1 this year, with a strength of schedule in the 50s or 60s. And they'll make the title game over someone with the same record - and an SOS in the 20s or 30s.

    How's that for getting a pass. ESPN is DYING for ANYONE besides an SEC team to talk about. They LOVE that a major market team in Cali is out front. And they'll do anything they can to put SC in that title game.

    Let OU (really tough schedule) and USC both have 1 loss at year's end. I guarantee you OU gets left out. You'll see an ESPN/USC campaign that will be more fervent than either presidential candidate will put out this year.

    That's a promise.

    USC will have a very strong SOS. I did an analysis for the pre-season SOS's of the contenders and USC was tops. Our SOS will be top-20 in the nation for sure.

    We play @ Stanford, @ Utah, Oregon twice, Notre Dame, and Washington. Hawaii is the only true poor team we play, and the only non-bcs team we play.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    USC will have a very strong SOS. I did an analysis for the pre-season SOS's of the contenders and USC was tops. Our SOS will be top-20 in the nation for sure.

    We play @ Stanford, @ Utah, Oregon twice, Notre Dame, and Washington. Hawaii is the only true poor team we play, and the only non-bcs team we play.

    Notre Dame, Stanford, and Washington will be unranked at season's end. Utah is your only prayer of having a 2nd ranked team on your schedule.

    Compare your schedule to OU's.

    This post was edited by bamagrad03 on 8/29/2012 at 4:27 PM

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  • bamagrad03 said...

    Notre Dame, Stanford, and Washington will be unranked at season's end. Utah is your only prayer of having a 2nd ranked team on your schedule.

    Compare your schedule to OU's.

    if ucla beats nebraska they have a very good chance of finishing ranked, and so does Stanford and or Washington. It is more difficult, to be ranked in the PAC-12 due to 9 conference games, it is a mathematical truth. Though I, unlike you am not so caught up in pollster rankings, as I am in true strength of opponents. Notre Dame is favored over Michigan who is ranked in the top-10, but in your mind Michigan is a much better team, but the experts see it differently. I have a more holistic view on things.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Anyone who knows football can see beyond any shadow of a doubt that USC was by far the most improved team in the country from the beginning of the season to the end.

    That is your opinion not fact, although I tend to agree with it. Just because you say something is fact doesn't make it so.

    USC would have been blown off the field by UA or LSU whether it was in week one or January( the later scenario requires a little use of the imagination and creating a hypothetical universe where they would have been bowl eligible).

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  • bamadvm said...

    That is your opinion not fact, although I tend to agree with it. Just because you say something is fact doesn't make it so.

    USC would have been blown off the field by UA or LSU whether it was in week one or January( the later scenario requires a little use of the imagination and creating a hypothetical universe where they would have been bowl eligible).

    Agreed. It seems Alabama and LSU are to be penalized for never having been mediocre all season.

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  • bamadvm said...

    That is your opinion not fact, although I tend to agree with it. Just because you say something is fact doesn't make it so.

    USC would have been blown off the field by UA or LSU whether it was in week one or January( the later scenario requires a little use of the imagination and creating a hypothetical universe where they would have been bowl eligible).

    It is not a fact because I said it. I said it because it was a fact.

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  • Do-Rag said...

    Agreed. It seems Alabama and LSU are to be penalized for never having been mediocre all season.

    How are they being penalized?

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  • Didn't realize it was a option. Can't wait to see those scUMbags get slaughtered.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    How are they being penalized?

    You're not so good at inferential reasoning.

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  • Do-Rag said...

    You're not so good at inferential reasoning.

    Logic and reasoning are 2 of my strong suits. I want to know how you can logically conclude that Bama and/or LSU are being penalized?

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Logic and reasoning are 2 of my strong suits.

    Are you sure about that?

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    It is not a fact because I said it. I said it because it was a fact.

    You need to learn the difference between fact and opinion. I thought you on the west coast like to think that you are well educated; you would think you would know the difference.

    bamadvm

  • bamagrad03 said...

    Notre Dame, Stanford, and Washington will be unranked at season's end. Utah is your only prayer of having a 2nd ranked team on your schedule.

    Compare your schedule to OU's.

    Says the guy whose team beat 1 top 20 ranked team last year (and at home) before being picked by the BCSec to play LSU. Priceless.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Says the guy whose team beat 1 top 20 ranked team last year (and at home) before being picked by the BCSec to play LSU. Priceless.

    How'd that turn out?

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  • Do-Rag said...

    Are you sure about that?

    Yes, as sure as I am about you not being capable of making an intelligent point.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Yes, as sure as I am about you not being capable of making an intelligent point.

    That's what I thought. You think you're good at it, precisely because you aren't.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Yes, as sure as I am about you not being capable of making an intelligent point.

    You USC posters are the most arrogant bunch I've ever observed. That's saying a lot considering I am an Alabama fan and probably 50% of the people I know are Alabama fans.

    bamadvm

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Says the guy whose team beat 1 top 20 ranked team last year (and at home) before being picked by the BCSec to play LSU. Priceless.

    Correction, we blew the eventual #5 team in the country out of the water. Blown out. We also didn't have a single close game all year outside of our OT loss to the #1 team in the nation. If you don't think we would have blown out our share of top 25 opponents had we played them, you're kidding yourself. We also went on the road and blew out PSU.

    We didnt: beat Minnesota by 2 points. Struggle with unranked Utah, get destroyed by an unranked opponent and give up 41 to another.

    Alabama's strength of schedule was 5th last year. USC's was 44th. Yet USC still had a 3 TD loss and a bunch of close wins on their record. Alabama had 1 loss to the 1 (at the time) team in the country and blew everyone else out.

    It's not even up for debate.

    bamagrad03

  • bamagrad03 said...

    We also didn't have a single close game all year outside of our OT loss to the #1 team in the nation. If you don't think we would have blown out our share of top 25 opponents

    Alabama's strength of schedule was 5th last year. USC's was 44th.

    It's not even up for debate.

    "We didn't have a single close game all year"
    Ya, that's what happens when you don't play any top 25 teams.

    Take about random stats, SOS 44 -5, ok buddy , was that from Uncle Gomer's rankings.

    It's not even up for depate? I'm not debating that USC should have played for the Mythical title last year.
    I never said anything about that.

    Just funny that you guys got picked after beating only 1 top 25 team.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    "We didn't have a single close game all year" Ya, that's what happens when you don't play any top 25 teams.

    Take about random stats, SOS 44 -5, ok buddy , was that from Uncle Gomer's rankings.

    It's not even up for depate? I'm not debating that USC should have played for the Mythical title last year. I never said anything about that.

    Just funny that you guys got picked after beating only 1 top 25 team.

    We played the #1 team and beat the crap out of the #5 team. Florida was top 25 at the time we beat them, as was PSU and Auburn.

    Our #5 SOS and USC's #44 SOS came straight from the NCAA's stats page:

    http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2012/Internet/toughest%20schedule/fbs_9games_cumm.pdf

    (USC's opponents combined record was only 7 games over .500. Alabama's opponents were a combined 27 games over .500) It's not even close.

    The next team who would have been picked to play in that game was Okie St. They only had 2 teams on their schedule finish in the top 25: OU and Kansas St. Kansas St lost by double digits in their bowl to a team we dump trucked. And Okie St happened to lose to an unranked opponent.

    If you want to give them credit for beating other top 25 teams who didn't finish in the top 25 (A&M and Texas), then you have to do the same for Alabama.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by bamagrad03 on 8/30/2012 at 11:22 AM

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  • bamagrad03 said...

    We played the #1 team and beat the crap out of the #5 team. Florida was top 25 at the time we beat them, as was PSU and Auburn.

    Our #5 SOS and USC's #44 SOS came straight from the NCAA's stats page:

    http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2012/Internet/toughest%20schedule/fbs_9games_cumm.pdf

    (USC's opponents combined record was only 7 games over .500. Alabama's opponents were a combined 27 games over .500) It's not even close.

    The next team who would have been picked to play in that game was Okie St. They only had 2 teams on their schedule finish in the top 25: OU and Kansas St. Kansas St lost by double digits in their bowl to a team we dump trucked. And Okie St happened to lose to an unranked opponent.

    If you want to give them credit for beating other top 25 teams who didn't finish in the top 25 (A&M and Texas), then you have to do the same for Alabama.


    the nzaa is a disease, I shit on their website.

    You are getting funnier, Florida, Penn St, and Auburn. lol

    Last time I checked OU, KState, and Baylor make 3 top 20 teams that Ok State beat prior to bowls, and 3 is 3x as many as 1.
    I agree that KState was kind of weak, Arkansas was lucky to play them rather than Baylor or OU, or else they probably would have lost, considering they almost lost to 7-6 A&M.

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  • Damn how did a thread about Michigan turn into a Bama vs USC standoff LOL?To bad Bama won't be making the championship this year so we could end this feud.

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  • bamadvm said...

    You USC posters are the most arrogant bunch I've ever observed. That's saying a lot considering I am an Alabama fan and probably 50% of the people I know are Alabama fans.

    I am certainly arrogant as fuck, though I don't think it is fair to call the rest of USC's fanbase arrogant because of me.

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  • bamagrad03 said...

    We played the #1 team and beat the crap out of the #5 team. Florida was top 25 at the time we beat them, as was PSU and Auburn.

    Our #5 SOS and USC's #44 SOS came straight from the NCAA's stats page:

    http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2012/Internet/toughest%20schedule/fbs_9games_cumm.pdf

    (USC's opponents combined record was only 7 games over .500. Alabama's opponents were a combined 27 games over .500) It's not even close.

    The next team who would have been picked to play in that game was Okie St. They only had 2 teams on their schedule finish in the top 25: OU and Kansas St. Kansas St lost by double digits in their bowl to a team we dump trucked. And Okie St happened to lose to an unranked opponent.

    If you want to give them credit for beating other top 25 teams who didn't finish in the top 25 (A&M and Texas), then you have to do the same for Alabama.

    When talking SOS, the ncaa's method is absolutely pathetic. Not worth the paper it is printed on. No SOS formula is perfect, but intelligent people hold Sagarin's as the Gold standard.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    When talking SOS, the ncaa's method is absolutely pathetic. Not worth the paper it is printed on. No SOS formula is perfect, but intelligent people hold Sagarin's as the Gold standard.

    That may be true. But Alabama's opponents combined were 27 games over .500. USC's were 7 games over .500.

    That's not disputable. Unless Sagarin's crazy math somehow changes that too.

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