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jumpman-23 said...
This argument is always made from a "who would win" standpoint. That cannot be proven one way or the other, because they are unable to play. But the argument usually unfolds as a "collection of talent" dispute and at this point in time, of course, '92 wins hands down.
This Gen X observer says in their primes, these teams are pretty close in talent, with the edge to '92 having the GOAT to carry them.
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L_Himmler said...
So, you're able to watch this '12 team go full force like they did today and not conclude that it is possibly the best basketball team (perhaps team of any sport in history) ever assembled? You really believe that the 92 team's washed up white boys, AIDS victims (sorry to be blunt, I love Magic [go green], but he was not a real basketball player by 1992), and tweeners could stand up to the buzz saw that is Kobe, LeBron, and Durant on the floor at the same time? The 92 team straight up could not deal with the gazelles on the '12 team flying around on fast breaks. It's just a different game today; I mean, have you watched old NBA games from the early 90's? They look like mediocre power conference college teams.
And what about the differences in depth? Whom was the 92 bringing off the bench who could compete with the likes of Carmelo, Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook, or Deron Williams?
Sorry, but the 92 team only gets so much love because of nostalgia and circumstance. They were only notable because they were the first pro Olympics team, and they were SO far ahead of their competition.
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L_Himmler said...
People haven't, but the game and level of competition has. The players are incredibly more refined and skilled than they were 20 years ago, probably due to the exponential increase in exposure to elite competition starting in childhood. Have you watched a college basketball game from the early to mid '80's? It looks like women's basketball: choppy, below the rim, slow, and unimpressive. Today's college basketball players are in a different galaxy than those of the Dream Team's day, and this phenomenon stretches into middle and high school AAU ball.
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MarineMountie said...
Are people really making physical arguments? About today's game? You can't touch a player without drawing a foul. Robinson and Ewing would dominate the post like none other. Throw in Barkley and Malone and its game over. Should I get into the lock down defense of Jordan and Pippen? How about Mullen and Drexler knocking down 15 footer after 15 footer? Byrd was there for leadership and the players admitted as much. Stockton would get assist after assist by throwing it into the post. Nobody on this team would be able to compete with the Dream Team post. Throw in Jordan and pippen lock down defense its game over.
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jumpman-23 said...
This argument is always made from a "who would win" standpoint. That cannot be proven one way or the other, because they are unable to play. But the argument usually unfolds as a "collection of talent" dispute and at this point in time, of course, '92 wins hands down.
This Gen X observer says in their primes, these teams are pretty close in talent, with the edge to '92 having the GOAT to carry them.
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joetheogre said...
Explain how you guard this lineup:
Howard - 6'11" 280, athletic freak
James - 6'9" 265, athletic freak
Durant - 6'10", 7'5" wingspan, dead eye shooter
Kobe - 6'6" one of the best scorers of all time
Chris Paul/Deron Williams - True point guardHard to see how the anyone can guard all of these guys. Lets stop acting like the 92 was demi-gods. They were a collection of all-stars who played terrible international competition. The 2012 team is a collection of all stars that plays solid to good international competition. When they do play terrible teams, they win by 85 points.
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joetheogre said...
Explain how you guard this lineup:
Howard - 6'11" 280, athletic freak
James - 6'9" 265, athletic freak
Durant - 6'10", 7'5" wingspan, dead eye shooter
Kobe - 6'6" one of the best scorers of all time
Chris Paul/Deron Williams - True point guardHard to see how the anyone can guard all of these guys. Lets stop acting like the 92 was demi-gods. They were a collection of all-stars who played terrible international competition. The 2012 team is a collection of all stars that plays solid to good international competition. When they do play terrible teams, they win by 85 points.
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gobigblue21 said...
Now, entertain me. We're talking international ball where your only allowed 5 fouls. So when Chandler, or even Dwight, got in foul trouble, who guards Ewing/Robinson and Malone/Barkley on the floor at the same time? More importantly who keeps them off the boards? And who do you put on MJ?
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joetheogre said...
Hard to say that because the careers of the 2012 guys haven't been finished. LBJ and Kobe could end up being 2 of the top 5 players ever. Durant could be too for all we know. Davis hasn't even played a minute in the NBA.
In other words, its easy to say "the 1992 had X number or hall of famers, the 2012 doesn't", but that is unfair because most of these players careers are maybe half over.
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UTK66 said...
Why are you even mentioning Davis? Dude is grossly overrated. Solid defender but he'll be a 10 and 8 guy, nothing more. D. Howard and Byndom will abuse that beanpole, badly.
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mizAU said...
Most of the players on the Dream Team are Hall of Famers.
Also, besides the fact that Dwight isn't even ON the team, people need to stop talking about him like he's all-world. He may be the best center in the game today, but he grossly underperforms in relation to his potential. Dwight is not a top ten Center of all time. Ewing and Robinson probably were.
This debate begins and ends in the post, where the Dream Team would obliterate this team.
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-Most of the players on the current team will be hall of famers.
-Howard is a top ten Center of all time. He is 26, but his career will bear that out.
-No one would obliterate this team. If the dream team won it would be by <15This post was edited by mac1992 on 8/3/2012 at 8:11 AM
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-Most of the players on the current team will be hall of famers.
-Howard is a top ten Center of all time. He is 26, but his career will bear that out.
-No one would obliterate this team. If the dream team won it would be by <15mizAU
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mizAU said...
- So? I was countering the fact that you (or someone) said the guys on the Dream Team wouldn't be All-Stars in today's NBA. Laughable.
- Howard is NOT a top ten Center of all time. Not yet. He may or may not get there. This discussion pertains to players how they were during their respective team's Olympic Games. Oh, and it doesn't matter because Dwight IS NOT ON THE TEAM.
- Didn't say the Dream Team would obliterate the 2012 team all-around. I said they would dominate them in the post, which they would.
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