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AlwaysMore said...
I think its pretty interesting that people that saw the 92 team play, immediately knew how good they were, and there was zero controversy about how it was truly a "Dream Team". There was not a lot of whining from some previous generational fans about how Michael Jordon could not play in another era, and crap like that.
The quality of that team was universally appreciated. Sheesh, to me the 2012 team is towards the bottom of NBA Olympic basketball teams. Small, not very tough, with a finesse style and not a lot of lock down defenders. They are going to struggle against any team with any sort of front line size. Anyone that can look at that roster and start spouting off about how great they are, when this is a team that struggled all game with an average Argentina squad in an exhibition game. That Argentina squad has exactly one top flight NBA level player on it, Manu Ginobli.
Oh but the 2012 team scored all those points against Nigeria? Thats why the children of the board are out here claiming some sort of super dominance?
What a freaking joke.
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gobigblue21 said...
I never said Dirk and Bird have the same game. I was telling whoever said that a slow white guy couldn't get his shot off in today's NBA that Dirk and Bird are very similar in that way that they don't wow anyone with athleticism but they get their shots off on anyone with the same old moves no one can stop. Paul Pierce is another great example of this.
And your reasoning for why Ewing isn't better than Dwight is because Dwight can jump higher? Ya you're not helping anyone on your side of the argument with that statement. Do you think Dwight would just simply jump over Patrick Ewing on every possession? Ewing had a much more polished offensive game. Dwight's has come a long way and is pretty good but still not great.
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Harry Callahan said...
It's absurd how much legends grow long after the fact. If we could ever get the '92 team back in their prime, the expectations would be so ridiculous that they could never live up to their name.
Remember when Jordan could dunk from the 3 pt line?
Remember when Reggie Miller could hit half court shots all game long?
Remember when Bird drove the lane at will?
Remember when Ewing skied for rebounds? (knees)
Remember when blah, blah, blah. Nobody, not even Jordan could enter the game today and live up to his name. The older guys (I'm 27 FWIW and remember the Bad Boys, Bulls, Lakers, and Celtics) just can't let it go. This team doesn't even have Bosch, Wade, or Rose. People mention certain guys on Team USA but fail to acknowledge that 3 of the best players in the NBA aren't even on the roster from fatigue/injury yet, we'll make excuses for Shaq. Funny how that works.
People are comparing Bird to Nowitzki like they have the same game. Lol. Well, they're both white. However, Dirk plays with his back to the basket far, far more. He has a great turn around jumper, doesn't use a hook ever, and rarely brings the ball up the court if ever. Bird was a somewhat crafty player with a great catch and shoot. Oh, and Dirk is 7'0. Different players fellas. But yeah, both are white dudes so yeah...
Magic would be the closest type player to LeBron. I agree with whoever said that. However, LeBron is in his prime and Magic was in the twilight of his career. LeBron would beat him up. I love me some Magic. I'm a Spartan, but he wasn't the same player in '92 as he was in '82.
Dwight Howard and Ewing are different players as well. Howard can jump up and touch the shot clock. Ewing would have snapped his knee off trying to do so. Ewing was a great player but he's not Dwight Howard. The best match up would have been Shaq but he was not on the team.
Like I said, the '92 team just can't live up to the hype. Some of you need to come down from the clouds. The '92 team and 2012 team would likely go 5-5 or so. It would be close. Add Shaq to the '92 team and Wade, Bosch, and Rose to the 2012 team and it probably moves to 6-4 in favor of 2012 squad. That's just my opinion though. Now proceed to call me an idiot to support your argument and continue to match up white players with white players cuz uh, they all have the same game.
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AlwaysMore said...
This is a team that struggled all game with an average Argentina squad in an exhibition game. That Argentina squad has exactly one top flight NBA level player on it, Manu Ginobli.
Oh but the 2012 team scored all those points against Nigeria? Thats why the children of the board are out here claiming some sort of super dominance?
What a freaking joke.
This post was edited by joetheogre on 8/3/2012 at 7:37 PM
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LSU-NoVa said...
They beat a college all star team by nearly 100 that had G Hill, Webber among others
That team was better than anybody this years US team has played for sure
The Dream Team's Very Bad Day - NYTimes.com
A new NBA TV documentary chronicles the day college players defeated the Dream Team in a scrimmage--part of Coach Chuck Daly's strategy to motivate the team before the 1992 Olympics.
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joetheogre said...
Explain exactly how 92 ewing was better than 2012 Howard.
Howard is bigger, faster, can jump higer, averages more rebounds and blocks per game, has been to more all star games, has won defensive player of the year 3 times, has been to the finals (which Ewing hadn't done and both were/are on crap teams.)
Ewing is a better post scorer.
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webbi said...
so i want to get this straight..
bird was 35 if i remember correctly in 1992, his last year.. he put up 24, 10 and 6 while shooting 50% from the field.. numbers that no 2012 player came close to putting up.. he was too old to compete?
kobe is 34.. a year younger, looked bad in the playoffs, chucking shots.. he put up 30, 4 and 4.. but he can take on jordan? wtf is wrong w/ people lol
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I worded it poorly but I think Dwight Howard is close to Ewing. Ewing relied purely on height down the stretch in his career to block shots. His first major knee injury came as a rookie. Just playing all those years with his poor knees was quite remarkable. Someone was talking about athleticism. So yes, I think Dwight Howard is the superior athlete. One can touch the shot clock. The other can no longer touch his toes.
I'm only out to show that the '92 team was not the end all, be all of NBA basketball. I'm not saying they were bad. I'm saying that they were one of the best USA teams, maybe the best. They aren't worlds ahead of these current players though. People say that this team lacks size. They lack a post presence but they don't lack size overall. They have a consistently big lineup. Chris Paul is the shortest at 6'0 and then you have Deron and Westbrook at 6'3. The remaining players are all over 6'5. Not exactly small but not big down low.
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Is there a single NBA player on Lithuania? You guys act like basketball didn't exist overseas in 1992 and they just picked up homeless guys off the street.
The only difference is, they were staying overseas so we never heard about them. They weren't coming to the US to play in the NBA in droves like they are today.
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