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EJ Levenberry to visit FSU and Michigan....

  • NoVaNoles said...

    Cause if he truly thinks he is fill at a spot cause of verbals this early that isn't smart and a rookie mistake

    Never assume you are full and turning kids away isn't a smart move

    It depends on what you mean by "turning kids away". Our coaches are simply being honest about the number of verbal commits we have at each position and whether we plan to take any more. Some kids are visiting even though we currently appear full at their position (e.g., OT Colin McGovern), but others are deciding to visit elsewhere for now. Short of outright lying to kids, I'm not sure what else you are suggesting we should do.

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  • WingedHelmet said...

    It depends on what you mean by "turning kids away". Our coaches are simply being honest about the number of verbal commits we have at each position and whether we plan to take any more. Some kids are visiting even though we currently appear full at their position (e.g., OT Colin McGovern), but others are deciding to visit elsewhere for now. Short of outright lying to kids, I'm not sure what else you are suggesting we should do.

    Of course, and we don't know what is really going on

    Im saying that if you are telling kids you are full cause of a verbal commit in March that doing so isn't very smart

    That is all I meant

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Of course, and we don't know what is really going on

    Im saying that if you are telling kids you are full cause of a verbal commit in March that doing so isn't very smart

    That is all I meant

    Why make them pay a ton of money to visit if they can't commit anyways.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    Why make them pay a ton of money to visit if they can't commit anyways.

    Cause you stay in their head and if you need a fall back later on you have the kid in your back pocket

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Cause you stay in their head and if you need a fall back later on you have the kid in your back pocket

    LBs are the only ones who have been told not to visit because we only need one max, other positions haven't been told they can't visit, just can't commit.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Cause you stay in their head and if you need a fall back later on you have the kid in your back pocket

    I'd rather the coaches be honest to a kid upfront

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    This is Michigan, fergodsakes.

    Never Lose Hoke

  • Never Lose Hoke said...

    I'd rather the coaches be honest to a kid upfront

    You are being honest

    You tell them we are very interested but we are waiting on this kid or whatever

    And you still recruit them

    Very simple concept guys

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    You are being honest

    You tell them we are very interested but we are waiting on this kid or whatever

    And you still recruit them

    Very simple concept guys

    Except we aren't waiting on other kids, we're basically full except for a few prospects and if we miss out on them it doesn't really matter because we either already have kids that are committed or the position isn't a need.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    Except we aren't waiting on other kids, we're basically full except for a few prospects and if we miss out on them it doesn't really matter because we either already have kids that are committed or the position isn't a need.

    I get it man, doesn't change what Im saying

    Im not even saying Hoke did turn kids away, I have no idea if he did

    Im just saying the tactic of turning kids away cause you assume you are full isn't smart, that is all I said

    Don't take it so personally

    If Hoke did this he made a minor mistake is all, its not that serious and from the sounds of it you feel your staff just doesn't make mistakes on the recruiting trail

    Even Jimbo has done things that make me say WTF man ?

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    You are being honest

    You tell them we are very interested but we are waiting on this kid or whatever

    And you still recruit them

    Very simple concept guys

    How's this to simplify: For Michigan LB recruiting at this point is Levenberry or bust.

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    This is Michigan, fergodsakes.

    Never Lose Hoke

  • NoVaNoles said...

    I get it man, doesn't change what Im saying

    Im not even saying Hoke did turn kids away, I have no idea if he did

    Im just saying the tactic of turning kids away cause you assume you are full isn't smart, that is all I said

    Don't take it so personally

    If Hoke did this he made a minor mistake is all, its not that serious and from the sounds of it you feel your staff just doesn't make mistakes on the recruiting trail

    Even Jimbo has done things that make me say WTF man ?

    Well as I said before, getting a LB commit is a luxury this year and we really don't need any so turning away LB prospects isn't a mistake.

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  • Never Lose Hoke said...

    How's this to simplify: For Michigan LB recruiting at this point is Levenberry or bust.

    Okay, so if you missed then LB would just be a pass this year ?

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    I get it man, doesn't change what Im saying

    Im not even saying Hoke did turn kids away, I have no idea if he did

    Im just saying the tactic of turning kids away cause you assume you are full isn't smart, that is all I said

    Don't take it so personally

    If Hoke did this he made a minor mistake is all, its not that serious and from the sounds of it you feel your staff just doesn't make mistakes on the recruiting trail

    Even Jimbo has done things that make me say WTF man ?

    They aren't turning kids away. They explain to them the situation and the kid (and his family) can decide if they want to spend their own money on an unofficial visit to a school that currently does not have a place for him. As I said before, look for Michigan to host some of these kids in the fall for official visits when it is on their dime and not the kid's.

    I'm pretty sure Hoke, Mattison, and the rest of the staff know how to recruit. This isn't their first rodeo.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    Well as I said before, getting a LB commit is a luxury this year and we really don't need any so turning away LB prospects isn't a mistake.

    Got it

    All I did was answer to what fsufsu was talking about

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  • c_woodson said...

    They aren't turning kids away. They explain to them the situation and the kid (and his family) can decide if they want to spend their own money on an unofficial visit to a school that currently does not have a place for him. As I said before, look for Michigan to host some of these kids in the fall for official visits when it is on their dime and not the kid's.

    I'm pretty sure Hoke, Mattison, and the rest of the staff know how to recruit. This isn't their first rodeo.

    Yeah I get it dude, I was just speaking in the hypothetical in regards to what fsufsu meant by his comment

    Maize and Blue asked what he meant and I told him

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Okay, so if you missed then LB would just be a pass this year ?

    They took 4 LB last year and wanted two this year (based on all info available). They have one in McCray and feel as good as they can about another in Gedeon. However, they would always take a super like Levenberry so there will be a spot for him. If they get him, great. If not, they will survive.

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  • c_woodson said...

    They took 4 LB last year and wanted two this year (based on all info available). They have one in McCray and feel as good as they can about another in Gedeon. However, they would always take a super like Levenberry so there will be a spot for him. If they get him, great. If not, they will survive.

    Gotcha

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  • MichaelHardenII said...

    I'll take the coach who puts an over-achieving product on the field over one who recruits as good as Jimbo and has teams under-preform.

    If we didn't get hit with an injury grenade on offense we'd have won 11 last year. Seriously.

    Neither has accomplished much of anything yet but both programs are going to crescendo quickly.

    fsufsu

  • MichaelHardenII said...

    I'll take the coach who puts an over-achieving product on the field over one who recruits as good as Jimbo and has teams under-preform.

    Jimbo will win a NC before Hoke. Bank on it

    TNoles813

  • T-Noles813 said...

    Jimbo will win a NC before Hoke. Bank on it

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  • T-Noles813 said...

    Jimbo will win a NC before Hoke. Bank on it

    Doubt it.

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    MaizeandBlue21

  • T-Noles813 said...

    Jimbo will win a NC before Hoke. Bank on it

    Lulz. Both of them have a loooong way to go.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    Doubt it.

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  • mriderblue16 said...

    Lulz. Both of them have a loooong way to go.

    How do you know ?

    I think both could win one in the next few years with some breaks along the way

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    How do you know ?

    I think both could win one in the next few years with some breaks along the way

    Absolutely, they are recruiting well enough to perhaps accomplish it.

    But a statement like that is retarded, and is just a comment based on homerism.

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