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Elite 11: Saturday Superlatives

  • http://247sports.com/Article/Elite-11-Finals-Saturday-Superlatives-81679

    REDONDO BEACH, Calif.- We look at the best quarterbacks in specific categories, including Penn State commit Christian Hackenberg, so far at the Elite 11 finals.

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    Charles Power

  • Its interesting to see RF get an honorable mention with under the gunslinger section. UT is going to need another one of those after TB leaves.

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    Go Vols

    orangeasylum

  • orangeasylum said...

    Its interesting to see RF get an honorable mention with under the gunslinger section. UT is going to need another one of those after TB leaves.

    He's been solid out here for sure.

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    JC Shurburtt

  • Any chance Josh Dobbs gets bumped up to 4 stars. Watching his film versus that of some of the other 4 star QBs, in particular the 2 guys that are 4 star in Georgia...I don't see how/why they are rated higher as he put up great numbers in the best classification in the nation in Georgia's Largest Class.

    Also saw Dobbs, Printz, and Jennings play in the Rising Seniors All-Star Game....Dobbs threw for 220+ yards and 3 TDs. Neither Printz nor Jennings generated any points in the game.

    Tell people what they want to hear, they will like you. Tell them the actual truth...they may not.

    BamaBornDukie

  • So what exactly is Stanton doing that is making the coaches say he is #1 after the first few days, but only gets an honerable mention in the article? What are the coaches seeing that you guys arent?

    WaterfowlJunky

  • Didnt Johnny Stanton have one of the best overall performancces.

    Huskers123

  • The E11 coaches take into account the classroom stuff and what not, JC and everyone else is off the on the field stuff

    This post was edited by BennyG34 on 7/21/2012 at 2:50 PM

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    BennyG34

  • Thanks, CP. Its interesting to get a different perspective on the competition. The Tide has quite a good Program going. Congratulations! Send us any surplus dlinemen, excellent players.

    alohahusker

  • BamaBornDukie said...

    Any chance Josh Dobbs gets bumped up to 4 stars. Watching his film versus that of some of the other 4 star QBs, in particular the 2 guys that are 4 star in Georgia...I don't see how/why they are rated higher as he put up great numbers in the best classification in the nation in Georgia's Largest Class.

    Also saw Dobbs, Printz, and Jennings play in the Rising Seniors All-Star Game....Dobbs threw for 220+ yards and 3 TDs. Neither Printz nor Jennings generated any points in the game.

    Dobbs will move to four stars. I didn't see the RisingSeniors, but production in an all-star game is not something that should ever be the cornerstone of an evaluation.

    I think Jennings shows more on film as a pure passer, but Dobbs is the better overall prospect.

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  • WaterfowlJunky said...

    So what exactly is Stanton doing that is making the coaches say he is #1 after the first few days, but only gets an honerable mention in the article? What are the coaches seeing that you guys arent?

    Don't know what else they are taking into account.

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    JC Shurburtt

  • Johnny Stanton elected #1 overall by the coaches for a second straight day. Seems like they see something in him that isn't being portrayed here. I wonder if it's his coachable attitude... it's interesting to see he hasn't gotten much pub here even though he's been chosen #1 overall twice in a row now.

    klein12

  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Dobbs will move to four stars. I didn't see the RisingSeniors, but production in an all-star game is not something that should ever be the cornerstone of an evaluation.

    I think Jennings shows more on film as a pure passer, but Dobbs is the better overall prospect.

    I agree about the All-Star evaluation as I added that more so as ancilliary information. I followed both last season and Dobbs IMO is/was the better prospect. Honestly, I'm still not understanding why Bama chose to go with Parker McCleod over Dobbs as the 2nd QB in the 2013 Class as I saw McCleod play 13 games last year and Dobbs is definitely the better prospect. Dobbs is also originally from Alabama which makes the decision even more puzzling.

    Bama fans can downvote if you'd like but McCleod over Dobbs was a mistake.

    Tell people what they want to hear, they will like you. Tell them the actual truth...they may not.

    BamaBornDukie

  • I like Stanton not getting the "Pub." maybe we can keep this kid until signing day.

    Tomhusker

  • klein12 said...

    Johnny Stanton elected #1 overall by the coaches for a second straight day. Seems like they see something in him that isn't being portrayed here. I wonder if it's his coachable attitude... it's interesting to see he hasn't gotten much pub here even though he's been chosen #1 overall twice in a row now.

    We have talked about him plenty here.

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    JC Shurburtt

  • Second set of coach rankings...

    1. Stanton
    2. Greenlee
    3. Zaire
    4. Hackenberg
    5. Browne
    6. Del Rio
    7. Goff
    8. Kincade
    9. Williams
    10. Ramsey
    11. Cockerille

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Second set of coach rankings...

    1. Stanton 2. Greenlee 3. Zaire 4. Hackenberg 5. Browne 6. Del Rio 7. Goff 8. Kincade 9. Williams 10. Ramsey 11. Cockerille

    Thanks JC.

    Do you mind breaking down the things that may go into the coaches rankings other than what you guys are watching? Thanks in advance.

    What would your elite 11 look like in terms of the football you got the opportunity to see?

    creel647977

  • I don't think Saban wanted to sign 2 QBs that would be 1A and 1B, I think he wanted a clear #1 and a clear #2 that he could develop and mold. I think signing PM was a message to Bateman that you are my #1 guy, if he wanted a guy to instantly challenge Bateman he could have went with somone like Ferguson or Dobbs. After CB is signed, then you bring in the 1B in the 2013-2014 class to challenge him. JMO!

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    IBELIEVE85

  • A little bit of something for every fanbase article.

    JarheadBuck

  • Looks like osu bama and ttun are all getting good qb's. It will be fun watching osu go head to head a few times against Morris and maybe bama for a playoff or nc game to see who did best.

    davebucknut

  • Charles or JC,
    In your opinion who are your top 5 picks to have the best college careers. I know for the most part these kids are still pretty raw, just wanted your opinion on your top 5 after they get on campus, get coached up, and get a year or two into their CFB development, who are your picks then?

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    We have talked about him plenty here.

    Yes, I didn't mean to imply that we haven't seen updates and status reports on his weekend so far just that he's never been included in something like the rising players or things of that nature. I figured, since the coaches ranked him #1 overall two days in a row that he might be considered a rising QB.

    klein12

  • Where did morris and Barrett rank? I saw the top 11 but both those guys got "awards" but weren't in the top 11...

    OHSethIO

  • Batewman will move up in the rankings............as the tourney continues............thanks, Charles

    glennbarr

  • Have really enjoyed the positive reviews of Malik Zaire. Knew he was a good dual threat qb, but I am even more impressed with him now after reading the past summaries.

    Thanks to the staff for such good updates.

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    nbennyboy

  • Christian Hackenberg will be a great pick up for a school...now that he's soon to be back on the market.

    YankeeJets