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FSU vs Bama

  • TP30 said...

    So wait. Does FSU run some sort of 7 WR package I haven't seen? FSU I'd a lot like Arkansas. Saban's scheme is perfect for that style of play.

    A lot like arkansas with an elite defense

    Something Saban hasn't seen since say Tebow's Gators and they went 1-1 against Bama IIRC

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  • new offense to hit college football DC's by suprise .

    "the 7 wide package". lol

    Crimson_Ghost

  • NoVaNoles said...

    A lot like arkansas with an elite defense

    Something Saban hasn't seen since say Tebow's Gators and they went 1-1 against Bama IIRC

    Elite defenses don't lose to Wake Forest. They give up zero points if they have too. They just don't let the team lose. They aren't elite brah. They're unproven paper talent.

    Edit; unproven at winning games that matter

    This post was edited by DrStache on 6/14/2012 at 5:07 PM

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  • Crimson_Ghost said...

    new offense to hit college football DC's by suprise .

    "the 7 wide package". lol

    I think they call it the "All will be NFL proBowlers" package. Or delusionsofgrandeur package.

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  • TP30 said...

    Elite defenses don't lose to Wake Forest. They give up zero points if they have too. They just don't let the team lose. They aren't elite brah. They're unproven paper talent.

    Edit; unproven at winning games that matter

    Oh i didn't realize that last years week 4 had everything to do with the potential for this years squad

    Is that what you mean ? Cause that is some retarded logic brah

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  • good defensive talent yes, but an elite defense doesnt give up multiple 30 point outings .

    could FSU run the slate in 12' ? they should but lets not confuse them w/ Tebow's Gators .

    Crimson_Ghost

  • NoVaNoles said...

    Oh i didn't realize that last years week 4 had everything to do with the potential for this years squad

    Is that what you mean ? Cause that is some retarded logic brah

    It has as much relevance as calling a defense elite that hasn't played a snap of football in the year of our lord and savior 2012.

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  • Crimson_Ghost said...

    good defensive talent yes, but an elite defense doesnt give up multiple 30 point outings .

    could FSU run the slate in 12' ? they should but lets not confuse them w/ Tebow's Gators .

    Last year has nothing to do with this year

    Early last year too, that was literally game 2 of the season for i don't even count the first 2

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  • TP30 said...

    It has as much relevance as calling a defense elite that hasn't played a snap of football in the year of our lord and savior 2012.

    I didn't start this thread

    I just think FSU has more talent in certain areas

    I don't think we are the better team

    Not with EJ and our OL

    Our DL will skull fuk you though... Real talk, and your OL is easily my favorite nationally in 2012

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 6/14/2012 at 5:14 PM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Last year has nothing to do with this year

    Is'nt that what you're basing your entire theory on being elite on?

    This post was edited by DrStache on 6/14/2012 at 5:14 PM

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  • TP30 said...

    Is'nt that what you're basing your entire theory on being elite on?

    No

    Im basing it on Joyner and Jones becoming legit all americans

    Brooks is an upgrade at one of the 2 new starter spots on defense.... And he will rotate with Karlos at this safety spot and god help us all if he gets going and takes over

    The DL is stupid and deep... I won't even go there

    Our main 4-5 LB's are very good with Jones being the upperclassmen star as mentioned

    Overall its a defense that is loaded and experienced with a stud filled crew of freshman coming in

    Add this with an easier schedule and FSU's defense is gonna light up the stat sheet

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  • TP30 said...

    I have a serious question an this isn't meant to offend or be a joke. Is that most FSU's fans expectations? When I look at your schedule and the supposed talent that is at FSU, plus the coaching....... I really think anything more than 1 loss would be a serious disappointment. The OOC schedule is a joke (i know, not your fault Miami and UF arent very good either)and the only game that I could see FSU lose would be VT. There's people in the media that are expecting an FSU appearance in the title game.

    As you have stated about FSU as well, I need to see them prove it on the field.... if I am basing it off talent, potential and schedule then I agree.... but since I need to see it then yes we are subject to drop a game we shouldn't...

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    No

    Im basing it on Joyner and Jones becoming legit all americans

    Brooks is an upgrade at one of the 2 new starter spots on defense.... And he will rotate with Karlos at this safety spot and god help us all if he gets going and takes over

    The DL is stupid and deep... I won't even go there

    Our main 4-5 LB's are very good with Jones being the upperclassmen star as mentioned

    Overall its a defense that is loaded and experienced with a stud filled crew of freshman coming in

    Add this with an easier schedule and FSU's defense is gonna light up the stat sheet

    Look, you know me. I'm not an FSU hater. I dig the tomahawk chop, the spear, the Uni's. Obviously I was being sarcastic on a lot of my points. I just got caught up in the PAC-10 fans comment about FSU being more talented and experienced. I don't think either is the case. FSU players have more game experience but I seriously don't think Alabama's defensive unit will suffer at all because the players that are stepping in have a ton of experience. Besides, the great Bobby Bowden once said " 95% of experience and preparation comes from practice". I'm not ring sarcastic when I call him great either. I believe that to be the case. You've played sports. Game experience is way over thought IMO.

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  • Also..........I agree with most experts and if I were an FSU fan if e extremely disappointed this year with more than 1 loss. With that schedule FSU needs to take advantage of it.

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  • TP30 said...

    Look, you know me. I'm not an FSU hater. I dig the tomahawk chop, the spear, the Uni's. Obviously I was being sarcastic on a lot of my points. I just got caught up in the PAC-10 fans comment about FSU being more talented and experienced. I don't think either is the case. FSU players have more game experience but I seriously don't think Alabama's defensive unit will suffer at all because the players that are stepping in have a ton of experience. Besides, the great Bobby Bowden once said " 95% of experience and preparation comes from practice". I'm not ring sarcastic when I call him great either. I believe that to be the case. You've played sports. Game experience is way over thought IMO.

    Yeah im mostly being sarcastic too

    I just think certain Bama fans should respect the talent/potential of FSU

    Im sure its old how every year we get hyped but there is a reason for it and this is easily the best FSU team i have seen since 2000

    And you also know me and know i don't hate Bama and also speak honestly about FSU

    I don't think we are better than Bama, but anybody thinking Bama just rolls right past FSU is not paying much attention to what FSU has on its roster

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  • TP30 said...

    Also..........I agree with most experts and if I were an FSU fan if e extremely disappointed this year with more than 1 loss. With that schedule FSU needs to take advantage of it.

    with that slate if they get more than one loss in the regular season i'll be disappointed & im not a Nole fan .

    Crimson_Ghost

  • Crimson_Ghost said...

    what offense runs 7 wide and ill be glad to tell ya . juggle

    Nobody has ever had a deep enough WR unit to do it, so I can't tell you. Good luck to anybody prepping for it though.

    Alonzo Harris

  • NoVaNoles said...

    Nothing lil about him ass bag

    Tim Jernigan would dominate anybody on your OL

    End of story

    Awww, its so easy to say that when you know that he will never get that opportunity. Why? Because FSU can't navigate that lame ass schedule.

    bigwilly64

  • swizz said...

    to many questions for both sides to accurately answer this question

    In the words of Carl Brutananadilewski..."you have *got* to be freaking kidding me."

    This post was edited by ksredmill on 6/14/2012 at 6:20 PM

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  • ksredmill said...

    In the words of Carl Brutananadilewski..."you have *got* to be freaking kidding me."

    Nope

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  • swizz said...

    Nope

    In that case, and with all homerism aside...headslap

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  • ksredmill said...

    In that case, and with all homerism aside...headslap

    Bama having to replace some great players and fsu needing to build a solid ol leave to many unknown variables to accurately predict an outcome

    Assuming gets neither fanbase anywhere

    This question should be asked midseason... not before either of these teams have started two a days

    This post was edited by swizz on 6/14/2012 at 6:29 PM

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  • TP30 said...

    Look, you know me. I'm not an FSU hater. I dig the tomahawk chop, the spear, the Uni's. Obviously I was being sarcastic on a lot of my points. I just got caught up in the PAC-10 fans comment about FSU being more talented and experienced. I don't think either is the case. FSU players have more game experience but I seriously don't think Alabama's defensive unit will suffer at all because the players that are stepping in have a ton of experience. Besides, the great Bobby Bowden once said " 95% of experience and preparation comes from practice". I'm not ring sarcastic when I call him great either. I believe that to be the case. You've played sports. Game experience is way over thought IMO.

    I have played sports at a decently high level and couldn't disagree more. For every kid that can step in and play there are ten with white line fever. Nothing replicates game action and game speed.

    Alonzo Harris

  • Alonzo Harris said...

    Nobody has ever had a deep enough WR unit to do it, so I can't tell you. Good luck to anybody prepping for it though.

    let me ask you this , if you were an OC and had 10 WR's = to Randy Moss in his prime would you implement a 7 wide scheme ? blank

    Crimson_Ghost

  • Alonzo Harris said...

    I have played sports at a decently high level and couldn't disagree more. For every kid that can step in and play there are ten with white line fever. Nothing replicates game action and game speed.

    SEC Practice = Game speed everywhere else

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