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  • Pedro Guerrero said...

    Oklahoma State's best win was Kansas State (LOL), who got Sanduskied by Arkansas -- a team Bama themselves Sanduskied to the tune of 38-14.

    Alabama only beat 3 teams with a winning record.

    Next.

    Rivver

  • gatider12 said...

    Vs. Bottom 30

    Bama 8-0

    OSU 5-1

    We could do this all day. They lost to a crappy football team at a time when it was too critical. They did not have a win that could put them over Bama left on the schedule because OU also dropped another one. It just happened man, it was right. You may not like it but that does not change that it was right.

    No, it wasn't right. Your overhyped and overrated conference was given a MNC by the media. To honestly try and claim otherwise is hilarious.

    Alabama had no business being in that game.

    This post was edited by Rivver on 1/12/2012 at 3:13 PM

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  • Rivver said...

    No, it wasn't right. Your overhyped and overrrated conference was given a MNC by the media. To honestly try and claim otherwise is hilarious.

    Agreed. A team that beat 3 teams with winning records has no business in the MNC. Not saying Bama wasn't the best team, but the media is supposed to go off of resume's, and they clearly did not do that. I think Bama and LSU are the two best teams. Thinking that doesn't give them the right to a MNC appearance. Going off of what they did, who they beat, ect... does.

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  • Andrea Doria said...

    I'm also including OSU's win over Stanfrord (by far their best win). We were talking year long resume not regular season resume.

    But we can do that too. Alabama's best regular season win was over Arkansas, OSU's was.........Baylor? K-State?

    Oklahoma State had a bunch of wins over very middle of the pack to pretty good teams (Texas, Texas AM, Baylor, K-State, Mizzou, OU) and no wins over very good teams. Their best win was pretty much dominated in their bowl game by the #3 from the SEC, who was dominated by the #1 and #2 in the SEC.

    You really want to compare resumes?

    Arkansas
    Penn State
    Auburn

    Those were the only FBS wins of Alabama who had a winning record. Media hype is what got them in, not being the most deserving. To honestly try and argue otherwise is just being delusional.

    Since this board is primarily Alabama posters, I don't know why I expect anything other than homerism and delusion.

    This post was edited by Rivver on 1/12/2012 at 3:18 PM

    Rivver

  • MarineMountie said...

    Agreed. A team that beat 3 teams with winning records has no business in the MNC. Not saying Bama wasn't the best team, but the media is supposed to go off of resume's, and they clearly did not do that. I think Bama and LSU are the two best teams. Thinking that doesn't give them the right to a MNC appearance. Going off of what they did, who they beat, ect... does.

    Wait.. What?? Are you seriously advocating that college football or any other sport should have a champion that is not the best team in the sport??

    Really?

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  • Rivver said...

    Alabama only beat 3 teams with a winning record.

    Next.

    Did Iowa St have a winning record? Maybe we should get more credit for crushing all the bad teams we played and not slipping up.

    Also, we beat MSU, Auburn, Arky and Florida. That's 4.

    OSU's best win was by 7 over KSU
    Alabama's best win was by 24 over Arkansas (who beat KSU by 13)

    Alabama had no bad losses and the best win of the 2. OSU had more wins over middle of the pack teams.

    Andrea Doria

  • I think it's funny that wins over sub-.500 teams are unimpressive (obviously meaning a loss to one of those teams would be an embarrassment).......but losing to one of those same sub-.500 teams shouldn't matter to the discussion.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Andrea Doria on 1/12/2012 at 8:43 PM

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  • This is such a stupid argument. These Big 12 fans are so defensive but it is clear what the reality is. I grew up in Big 12 country and appreciate the football, but no one can honestly argue that the league was so excellent that it outweighed all other conferences. The Big 12 had several middle of the road teams - the conference was "deeper" than the SEC, but the SEC was far stronger at the top. It's a wash to me. After that, you go by how a team looks - Alabama looks a lot better.

    FortWorthTide

  • Brian Henry said...

    #4 - Oklahoma ?

    the compt. program for S.O.S. is far to flawed & this is proof in the ole' pudding .

    Oklahoma at #4 is laughable .

    Crimson_Ghost

  • Andrea Doria said...

    Also, we beat MSU, Auburn, Arky and Florida. That's 4.

    Arkansas (10-2)
    Auburn (7-5)
    Mississippi State (6-6)
    Florida (6-6)

    The SEC, where going .500 means you had a winning record.

    Rivver

  • Clearly

    thelastsoldier

  • OSU should be happy they finished with Stanford. a step up in class & they would have been left with the same bad taste in their mouth that LSU stumbled home with.

    Crimson_Ghost

  • Rivver said...

    No, it wasn't right. Your overhyped and overrated conference was given a MNC by the media. To honestly try and claim otherwise is hilarious.

    Alabama had no business being in that game.

    you lost to unranked Iowa State. End of Story......OKie Lite has a billion dollar booster in the hip pocket, still cant get the best recruits to Stillwater......Barry Sanders bolted for Stanford?????

    I think you guys realize that you will never this close again for a looooooonnnng time. I understand why you are mad

    its a good thing you didnt have football game going with Coach Stanley passed, it would have been another incident for you to cry about like 50 people dying and 200 million dollars of damage to Tuscaloosa (WHICH IS WHERE THE FUCK I AM FROM) aint a tradegy either....SCREW you OKIE lite

    thelastsoldier

  • Rivver said...

    Arkansas (10-2) Auburn (7-5) Mississippi State (6-6) Florida (6-6)

    The SEC, where going .500 means you had a winning record.

    Arkansas,USCe, & Georgia would have challenged for the Big12 Title .

    Crimson_Ghost

  • Rivver said...

    Arkansas (10-2) Auburn (7-5) Mississippi State (6-6) Florida (6-6)

    The SEC, where going .500 means you had a winning record.

    Dude, quit posting stupid $hit. The Big 12 didn't beat anyone to deserve high computer rankings. The 2nd best Big 12 team got beat up and down the field by the 3rd best SEC team, enough said. The Big 12 had their opportunity to be in the National Championship. DON'T FVCKING LOSE TO IOWA ST. (a team with a losing record).

    The Big 12's biggest OOC win was FSU which lost to Wake Forest and UVA.

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  • Andrea Doria said...

    I think it's funny that wins over sub-.500 teams are unimpressive (obviously meaning a loss to one of those teams would be an embarrassment).......but losing to one of those same sub-.500 teams shouldn't matter to the discussion.

    You know what I think is funny? The blatant homerism from SEC fans.

    In 2007, LSU lost to 7-5 Kentucky and 8-4 Arkansas. Where was the outcry from SEC fans that LSU shouldn't get to go because they had a "worse loss" (and more of them) than other 1 loss teams? In 2008, Florida lost to 8-4 Ole Miss. Where was the outcry for a Texas-Oklahoma (Texas lost to 11-1 Texas Tech and Oklahoma lost to 11-1 Texas) rematch in the MNC game?

    That's what you SEC homers are either unaware of, or just choose to ignore. The "worst loss" factor only mattered THIS YEAR when that particular argument was to the benefit of one of your teams.

    Rivver

  • Rivver said...

    Arkansas (10-2)
    Auburn (7-5)
    Mississippi State (6-6)
    Florida (6-6)

    The SEC, where going .500 means you had a winning record.

    The OP posted a year end Schedule rank including bowls. I don't know why you keep returning to pre-bowl stuff. That's not the topic of the thread.

    Andrea Doria

  • thelastsoldier said...

    you lost to unranked Iowa State. End of Story......OKie Lite has a billion dollar booster in the hip pocket, still cant get the best recruits to Stillwater......Barry Sanders bolted for Stanford?????

    I think you guys realize that you will never this close again for a looooooonnnng time. I understand why you are mad

    its a good thing you didnt have football game going with Coach Stanley passed, it would have been another incident for you to cry about like 50 people dying and 200 million dollars of damage to Tuscaloosa (WHICH IS WHERE THE FUCK I AM FROM) aint a tradegy either....SCREW you OKIE lite

    Iowa State was one of the few games we won this year...

    Rivver

  • Rivver said...

    You know what I think is funny? The blatant homerism from SEC fans.

    In 2007, LSU lost to 7-5 Kentucky and 8-4 Arkansas. Where was the outcry from SEC fans that LSU shouldn't get to go because they had a "worse loss" (and more of them) than other 1 loss teams? In 2008, Florida lost to 8-4 Ole Miss. Where was the outcry for a Texas-Oklahoma (Texas lost to 11-1 Texas Tech and Oklahoma lost to 11-1 Texas) rematch in the MNC game?

    That's what you SEC homers are either unaware of, or just choose to ignore. The "worst loss" factor only mattered THIS YEAR when that particular argument was to the benefit of one of your teams.

    2007 LSU was the luckiest champion if the BCS era. They only got in because everyone else puked on themselves.

    You do realize that Ole Miss team finished ranked in the top 15 and beat top 5 Texas Tech by 20 in their bowl? Don't act like that loss is ANYTHING like losing to Iowa St. It isn't comparable. Also, 2008 Florida had a win over then #1 and 12-0 Alabama. Oklahoma St, as has been pointed out, has nothing anywhere near that on their regular season resume. So Florida's loss wasn't nearly as bad, and they had great wins in addition. Not the same.

    This post was edited by Andrea Doria on 1/12/2012 at 9:22 PM

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  • Rivver said...

    Iowa State was one of the few games we won this year...

    Exactly

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  • It's a blend of worst loss, best wins, number of quality wins in my book.

    OSU had more quality wins overall but was had no wins over very good-elite teams and a terrible loss.

    I can see why OSU people were pissed, they had a great year and had an argument. But to act like it'd some open and shut case that OSU got screwed is ludicrous.

    Andrea Doria

  • Since he wants to bring up historical bull$hit. The Big 12 is 8-11 in the BCS; the SEC is 16-7....enough said.

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  • Macdaddy7930 said...

    Since he wants to bring up historical bull$hit. The Big 12 is 8-11 in the BCS; the SEC is 16-7....enough said.

    The ACC is 2-13 in BCS games and they got two teams in this year. We see how much that matters.

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  • MarineMountie said...

    Agreed. A team that beat 3 teams with winning records has no business in the MNC. Not saying Bama wasn't the best team, but the media is supposed to go off of resume's, and they clearly did not do that. I think Bama and LSU are the two best teams. Thinking that doesn't give them the right to a MNC appearance. Going off of what they did, who they beat, ect... does.

    WHO had the right to play in the game.

    Not one team from the B12. B10. The Pac 12. The ACC or especially the Big East could have touched the top 3 teams in the SEC West.

    Big Boy football. You all can't handle it. Its really quite simple.

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