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  • Your team was fourth in total defense last year.

    How many starters return?

    The offense will improve right?

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  • Yea and also FSU fans what are you hearing in regards to Marquedius Bain.

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    JdCanes

  • We return 9 of 11 starters on D. Only lost Terrance Parks and Nigel Bradham, but it is probably a good thing that Parks is gone bc he was not very good. We also lost Mike Harris though who could also be considered a starter and that will hurt the secondary some because that guy was a ball hawk and could tackle. Secondary should be fine though.

    Offense should also improve. It has to. That OLINE last year was abysmal. They can't get any worse.

    Marshall Nole

  • JdCanes said...

    Yea and also FSU fans what are you hearing in regards to Marquedius Bain.

    THat he is likely a cane commit

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    duvalnole

  • Oh yeah our front seven should be strength of our defense, and the offense improvement all depends on the Offensive line.

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  • JdCanes said...

    Yea and also FSU fans what are you hearing in regards to Marquedius Bain.

    Heard he has a boyfriend

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    NoVaNoles

  • Marshall Nole said...

    We return 9 of 11 starters on D. Only lost Terrance Parks and Nigel Bradham, but it is probably a good thing that Parks is gone bc he was not very good. We also lost Mike Harris though who could also be considered a starter and that will hurt the secondary some because that guy was a ball hawk and could tackle. Secondary should be fine though.

    Offense should also improve. It has to. That OLINE last year was abysmal. They can't get any worse.

    This, and Ill just add that Karlos will be an amazing upgrade from Parks and so would Brooks

    But I think Brooks will take over the Harris role and we won't skip a beat there

    And Christian Jones should be an upgrade over Bradham

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Heard he has a boyfriend

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    This, and Ill just add that Karlos will be an amazing upgrade from Parks and so would Brooks

    But I think Brooks will take over the Harris role and we won't skip a beat there

    And Christian Jones should be an upgrade over Bradham

    I'm just looking forward to some Trickett threads.

    Always good for some lulz

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  • Ichabod said...

    I'm just looking forward to some Trickett threads.

    Always good for some lulz

    Absolutely

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  • Might get one on saturday, I fully expect the OL to look terrible

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    NoVaNoles

  • NoVaNoles said...

    This, and Ill just add that Karlos will be an amazing upgrade from Parks and so would Brooks

    But I think Brooks will take over the Harris role and we won't skip a beat there

    And Christian Jones should be an upgrade over Bradham

    i bet Tyler hunter gets alot of reps at nickel back, Los and brooks will split time at safety

    cuznchips28

  • NoVaNoles said...

    Might get one on saturday, I fully expect the OL to look terrible

    game is on espnu, OL, rbs specifically Pender, KB, Coker, and moody is who I will be watching

    cuznchips28

  • I am hoping my drill lets out early Saturday so I can watch the game. If it does not I will just have to catch it on replay.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Your team was fourth in total defense last year.

    How many starters return?

    The offense will improve right?

    9 of 11 starters return.

    We lose a decent Safety (Parks), a Solid but not irreplaceable LB (Bradham), and a very good nickel CB (Harris).

    Our DL looks like it will be on par with LSU as one of the best. Jernigan recently hurt his knee but should be OK well before the season starts so hopefully he recovers and plays better than last year. As far as DT goes, we have a superstar in Tim Jernigan but the strength really is in the depth. We go about 7 deep with guys who could step in and play at a VERY high level. Having said that, other than Jernigan, we don't have any DT's that are SUPER stars, just a ton of very very good guys. DE is the opposite, we are 3 deep with superstars at DE with Jenkins/Werner/Tank, all of whom should be drafted in the first 3 rounds IMO. They also fit together perfectly with Jenkins being an amazing pass rusher, Werner being a gigantic wall, and Tank being a perfect blend of the 2. Behind those 3 there is a question as to depth, Mario Williams is coming in and Giorgio Newberry has been impressing but i believe there is a drop off after our top 3 unlike out DT's.

    LB's depth could be a question. I think they are the weakest part of the D but thats not to say they are weak compared to other teams. CHristian Jones is a stud and will play in the NFL barring injury, Telvin Smith is a superstar but needs to add weight. Luc looks like he will transfer. We should be solid but beatable at LB IMO.

    DB is pretty good. Reid is a superstar but is the same old Reid...Risk/Reward. He's small and takes chances. Rhodes is what he is IMO; the Vanilla Ice cream of the DB world (Good flavor, but doesn't make the flashy plays). Our strength is at Safety here with Joyner, Karlos Williams, and Terrence Brooks, all of whom are certified playmakers. Williams is the most talented but has the least consistency due to lack of playbook grasp. Joyner is the best of the bunch but is a tad short.

    So thats my take on the defense. Overall, if they take a step forward you're looking at a 2011 LSU type of defense, if they don't you're looking at the same as last year (A few games we will give up 30-40 points).

    The offense:

    Our offense would have been REALLY good if our OL was worth a damn last year. Im expecting our OL to take a step forward but that could be a bit homerish. We will see...we have the talent at OL.

    Our WR's will be a nightmare if our OL can block, and our RB's are great but not deep. EJ Manuel is a legit Heisman contender if his OL plays well, but will look bad if he is running for his life all year again.

    TNoles813

  • cuznchips28 said...

    i bet Tyler hunter gets alot of reps at nickel back, Los and brooks will split time at safety

    Yeah I love Hunter, but if Karlos becomes the player I imagine in my head Brooks is gonna have to go somewhere

    And like you said he will play safety regardless so I would love to see Brooks as the main backup to both Joyner and Karlos and start at Nickel.... if he does that he will see as many plays as any starter pretty much

    Hunter is still young so if somebody has to suffer this season its him, we have got to have Brooks, Karlos and Joyner on the field all at the same time iyam

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    NoVaNoles

  • Good post, T-Noles.

    I think Nick Moody will thrive as a LB.

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  • cuznchips28 said...

    game is on espnu, OL, rbs specifically Pender, KB, Coker, and moody is who I will be watching

    Replace Moody with Lawrence Stample and you have my list, can't wait

    I wanna see what Nick O does too

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  • Appreciate it Noles.

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    BamaLivesFootba

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Appreciate it Noles.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Replace Moody with Lawrence Stample and you have my list, can't wait

    I wanna see what Nick O does too

    yeah left some off, nick o, Mcallister jimbo said he has his weight under control is much quicker and has gotten stronger

    cuznchips28

  • cuznchips28 said...

    yeah left some off, nick o, Mcallister jimbo said he has his weight under control is much quicker and has gotten stronger

    Yeah I could name like 35 players if I wanted to

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Might get one on saturday, I fully expect the OL to look terrible

    Terrible because they are still terrible or because our DL should just be that good? From what little I know about practice this spring I hear they are showing improvement (the Oline).

    Marshall Nole

  • Marshall Nole said...

    Terrible because they are still terrible or because our DL should just be that good? From what little I know about practice this spring I hear they are showing improvement (the Oline).

    Little of both, the ND was only a few months ago and this is basically the same unit

    Hell Erving, a kid who has never played OL before in his life jumped over and is the LT... the spot for your most capable lineman

    I wouldn't be shocked if he was already the best OL on the team and that is just scary

    Looks like Hart is either dicking around or is getting outplayed by Stork, alarming to some degree cause Stork is terrible..... Hart could use a redshirt though

    I don't know, I just can't imagine how we could have gotten much better in 3/4 months

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    NoVaNoles

  • Karlos Williams is the Xavier Lee of defense, without the obsession to be the most popular white girl slayer in Tallahassee.

    Don't hold your breath on seeing him live up to his hype this season.

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    BushidoNole