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JEK said...
It seems the general perception of the Big Ten is that now that UM has Hoke and OSU has Meyer, the Big Ten is going to revert back to Big 2, Little 10. I don't see this as being the case at all. I think going forward what we're going to see is a different tier structure, for about the next five years, at least. Anything beyond that is too difficult to portend. That tier structure will look something like this:
Tier 1 (in no particular order) OSU MSU UM Wisconsin
Tier 2 Nebraska Iowa Penn State
Tier 3 Northwestern Illinois Purdue
Tier 4 Indiana Minnesota
Now, any of the tier 2 teams can obviously rise up in any given year and compete for a Big 10 championship, but I think all fall short of tier 1 at this point in time. Nebraska, in my opinion, has the best chance to join the top tier, but I'm not sold on Bo Pelini as a head coach. If NU brings in a great coaching staff, then the sky is the limit for that program. Too many question marks surrounding the future of PSU's program right now and Iowa has proven to be too inconsistent under Ferentz.
Anyway, this "general perception" seems to be largely based on this idea that because UM and OSU are recruiting well, that means MSU and UW are magically going to disappear and become irrelevant. To me, one thing does not necessarily affect the other. In other words, yes, it's actually quite possible that UM and MSU can be good...wait for it...AT THE SAME TIME! Crazy, I know!
The success of any program comes down to, first and foremost, good coaching. Both MSU and UW have that right now. MSU always had a program that was capable of succeeding -- good resources, good fan base, good recruiting territory -- all they ever needed was a competent coaching staff. The proof is in the pudding. Bad coaches (Bobby Williams, John L) = bad football. Good coaches (Saban, Dantonio) = good football. So unless Dantonio and staff all wake up one day with amnesia and completely forget how to evaluate talent, develop talent, and coach during games, then I've got news for the rest of Big Ten fans and the media...MSU ain't going anywhere. Same can be said of Wisconsin.
Obviously MSU, and even UW, still have much to prove on the national level. But the foundation is in place for both programs, and I think it's evident they will be competing with UM and OSU on a yearly basis in this league for championships.
Thoughts?
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Jahlil Suggs said...
Thoughts? My thoughts are that Michigan sucks and so do their fans that troll this board, having no educational background from the school they root for.
Check out my 2 deep of UM's base 4-3 under defense, let me know your thoughts. Last updated: 3/28/12
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Ah yes the age old "alumni only" fans. Thank god it's not really like that because college sports wouldn't even be popular enough to be televised and sites like this would be non-existent. Do you really want that? What's your pro sport team of choice? Do you have any affiliation whatsoever with that pro organization?
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I3usdriver said...
Ah yes the age old "alumni only" fans. Thank god it's not really like that because college sports wouldn't even be popular enough to be televised and sites like this would be non-existent. Do you really want that? What's your pro sport team of choice? Do you have any affiliation whatsoever with that pro organization?
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Jahlil Suggs said...
Listen you are really starting to get on my nerves douchebag, this isn't tRCMB where everybody knows you're joking this is a different board. So i would appreciate it if you would stop this defamation of character. Just because I didn't go to state yet doesn't mean I'm not going, Idiot. Seriously stop making shit up.
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I3usdriver said...
Ah yes the age old "alumni only" fans. Thank god it's not really like that because college sports wouldn't even be popular enough to be televised and sites like this would be non-existent. Do you really want that? What's your pro sport team of choice? Do you have any affiliation whatsoever with that pro organization?
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I3usdriver said...
Aren't you "bragging about education" right now? Does it take a 4 year degree to learn complex insults like "idiot" and "Wal-Verine"? The OP had a good topic going and you highjacked it with your arrogance and insecurity.
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WillyWolverine said...
Well that is BS considering it's been brought up numerous times on this site without anyone every saying anything about MSU's academics. Just more BS that MSU fans spew.
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I3usdriver said...
Well I at least know the difference between the letter 'I' and the number '1'... I don't need a prestigious msu degree to learn that.
This post was edited by Rocket_Play on 7/8/2012 at 1:13 PM
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I3usdriver said...
Oh yeah I'm distraught cause a troll called me an "idiot" and "Wal-Verine" on a message board. Pride before the fall buddy. And I can't wait for that fall.
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No I've had this tag from middle school days on AOL, like 15 years ago. Why I chose it I don't know but it just stuck. What's "rocket play" mean?
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