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Gators, Dawgs going tit for tat

  • AtlGator19 said...

    didn't SC get close to the Ole Miss mark 2 cycles back(31/32)?

    Due to some EEs not panning out we couldn't let 2 non-qualifiers sign NLIs. Naturally, out of the 4-5 non-qualifiers, the 2 who weren't allowed to sign were out of state. In state kids got to sign. They would have been able to enroll by Fall if they qualified, we had room, they just couldn't sign NLIs thanks to the rules.

    PTCcock195

  • kitemac said...

    So what says that AU cut/persuaded players?

    It means that in the past 4 years y'all have brought in 110+ when there is 85 spots available. No one is claiming wrong doing. Just stating stats. I personally don't care what other schools do. And to your previous question, UF does not oversign either.

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  • jkt360 said...

    Yes we "cut" all our veteran secondary so that we barely have a two deep and that's with freshmen. You butthurtness does not look good on you

    What do I have to be butthurt about? You guys are joining the club. welcome

    PTCcock195

  • kitemac said...

    So basically this new SEC rule is pretty much crap.

    Without that rule we could sign 3 more. I would wait and see how many we take before everyone gets upset. We will take only enough to fill 85 spots, after that signing room or not, we will be done. Not sure on how many that will be due to early drafted juniors, but we should have room for many this year- which as others have indicated is why we took fewer last year.

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  • jkt360 said...

    It means that in the past 4 years y'all have brought in 110+ when there is 85 spots available. No one is claiming wrong doing. Just stating stats. I personally don't care what other schools do. And to your previous question, UF does not oversign either.

    Oh so we count the players that didn't even make it on campus due to grades.

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    kitemac

  • jkt360 said...

    Without that rule we could sign 3 more. I would wait and see how many we take before everyone gets upset. We will take only enough to fill 85 spots, after that signing room or not, we will be done. Not sure on how many that will be due to early drafted juniors, but we should have room for many this year- which as others have indicated is why we took fewer last year.

    I'm not upset at all. We only take enough to fill 85 spots or less also. Just look at our class this past class. We are under 80 now. We haven't had 85 in a few years.

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    kitemac

  • You're cracking me up dawg, everyone on here is giving you logical answers to your questions and explaining how the rules work. And then you're blatantly avoiding accepting their answers, this is mad entertaining yo. lol

    meloguy4

  • jkt360 said...

    Without that rule we could sign 3 more. I would wait and see how many we take before everyone gets upset. We will take only enough to fill 85 spots, after that signing room or not, we will be done. Not sure on how many that will be due to early drafted juniors, but we should have room for many this year- which as others have indicated is why we took fewer last year.

    Not sure where the 3 more are coming from. Like I said earlier, we won't even fill up to 85 after this class, we are seriously short of the scholly limit now. I think people aren't understanding what is going on. We have room for around 33 this year, PROVIDED that at least 8 of them are EEs. We can only take 25 in the 2013 class, but we have room to backcount around 8 to the 2012 class because we only took around 17 (after you backcount those EEs to 2011) which is where the discrepancy comes in.

    Contrary to popular belief, there is apparently NO LIMIT on the number of early enrollees a team can bring in. Other than the room you have under the 25-cap in the previous class.

    This post was edited by Nicolae on 4/9/2012 at 7:46 PM

    Nicolae

  • It's fun isn't it?

    We haven't had to deal with it to the extent of Bama fans, but there isn't one damn opponent of oversigning who gives a flip about how the numbers actually work. They just spout off about the number of signees like a gag reflex. Again, welcome to the club.

    PTCcock195

  • I made this account to reply to you. You need to understand the rules to understand the meaning of oversigning. Oversigning is not actually possible, overcommitting should be a more appropriate word. Oversigning is when you sign A.) either more players than 85, or B.) sign more than 25 players in one given class.

    The one class does not include EE's from this upcoming year. EE's are included in the previous class. Therefore when UGA signed 16 players for their 2012 class they reserved space for 9 players in the 2013 class to EE for the 2012 class. These players enroll in january and are only included in class rankings as class members. The 9 players that UGA has room to sign to add to the 2012 class does not count against the 25 that UGA is available to sign for 2013.

    UGA has the space to sign 30+ and stay under the limit of 85. They can not sign more than 25 for the 2013 class, which does not include 2013's EE's. If UGA wants to sign any EE's in 2014 than they should not sign the full 25 for 2013. UGA would not have this opportunity if they had signed a full class of 25 for 2012. They had 3 count towards the 2011 class, Mark Beard, Faton Bauta, and Keith Marshall. This is not that hard to understand.

    Oversigning is not possible because the SEC will not allow a class to exceed 25 scholarships.

    JDBlawg

  • Nicolae said...

    Not sure where the 3 more are coming from. Like I said earlier, we won't even fill up to 85 after this class, we are seriously short of the scholly limit now. I think people aren't understanding what is going on. We have room for around 33 this year, PROVIDED that at least 8 of them are EEs. We can only take 25 in the 2013 class, but we have room to backcount around 8 to the 2012 class because we only took around 17 (after you backcount those EEs to 2011) which is where the discrepancy comes in.

    Contrary to popular belief, there is apparently NO LIMIT on the number of early enrollees a team can bring in. Other than the room you have under the 25-cap in the previous class.

    Before the new rule you could take 28 in a class with the same back counting. If that were still the rule, we could take 28 + (25 - last years class) which is 3 more than 25 + (25 - last years class).

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  • jkt360 said...

    Before the new rule you could take 28 in a class with the same back counting. If that were still the rule, we could take 28 + (25 - last years class) which is 3 more than 25 + (25 - last years class).

    That is what I was thinking, but wasn't sure.

    Nicolae

  • kitemac said...

    I'm not upset at all. We only take enough to fill 85 spots or less also. Just look at our class this past class. We are under 80 now. We haven't had 85 in a few years.

    Not accusing you of being upset, that was more of a message to all the there is not any point in having this discussion because we don't know how much room we'll have come signing day.

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  • kitemac said...

    Oh so we count the players that didn't even make it on campus due to grades.

    No, those do not count.

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  • PTCcock195 said...

    What do I have to be butthurt about? You guys are joining the club. welcome

    At some point it will click with you that signing over 25 in a year is not the equivalent to oversigning. When you do, reread this thread so you can experience the comedy of many posts ITT.

    This post was edited by SmithDawg48 on 4/9/2012 at 9:56 PM

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  • Of any team out there UGA is the one school along with Vandy who do not oversign. Any fan of a team who does has zero reason to be in this thread pointing fingers because even with over 30 we are not oversigning. I really just smh at the lack of knowledge of a very basic concept. Thanks Paul for the article. We should have another big week with commitments (we are already on fire with 2 and at least 1 tomorrow).

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  • jkt360 said...

    No, those do not count.

    Than we have no where near 110 in our last 4 classes we signed.

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  • Dawgsfan1973 said...

    Of any team out there UGA is the one school along with Vandy who do not oversign. Any fan of a team who does has zero reason to be in this thread pointing fingers because even with over 30 we are not oversigning. I really just smh at the lack of knowledge of a very basic concept. Thanks Paul for the article. We should have another big week with commitments (we are already on fire with 2 and at least 1 tomorrow).

    UGA and Vandy are the only ones that don't.

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  • kitemac said...

    How many UGA players are seniors next year?

    Better question to ask is how many more players are going to be getting kicked off for legal issues or outside circumstances?

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  • star69 said...

    Better question to ask is how many more players are going to be getting kicked off for legal issues or outside circumstances?

    You mean how many will actually get punished for things that our "peers" would simply turn a blind eye to? I would guess not very many, UGA is going into 2012 with not even 70 scholarship players, out of 85.

    Nicolae

  • blitzdawg said...

    I usually don't reply to the idiots that post on this board but I'll give it a try this time. There is a difference in over signing and signing a class bigger than 25. Over signing is the act if signing more players than you have scholarships for and in turn having I remove someone from the team ( Spurrier did this just last year) or having to Greyshirt someone (Saban tried to do this last year) or just pulling a scholarship from a kid (that worked out well for u LSU boys this year didn't it). We signed a short class last year and we now have the option of bringing in more than the standard 25. If you guys weren't so concerned about Richt's good Christian standards you might have a better grasp of the actual rules that relate to college football. And who knows you might even have realized that you couldn't have all those kids staying at the Whitney hotel. I believe if I were in ur shoes I would get my house in order before I started worrying about someone else's. Anyway my two cents now I'll I back to my board where there are a few less idiots.

    You sir have no idea what you are talking about. Get your facts straight about The Whitney before talking about it. As for oversigning, the mighty bull puppies could do it if they chose to. Don't cry and whine about others doing it when you have the option. Also, Spurrier operates on 1 year schollies. You have to earn your way.

    Jeff4SC

  • Of UGA's 3 Early Enrollees last year, only 2 can be back-counted to 2011, unless the 28 count limit was still in place. That makes 8 EE's + 25 = 33 signees for this class.

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  • I am sure I am like many who thought this thread was about both teams competing for the Fulmer Cup.

    Disappointed.....

    WRobins

  • star69 said...

    Better question to ask is how many more players are going to be getting kicked off for legal issues or outside circumstances?

    You do realize that we are having to start walk ons this year due to kicking off high 4 stars who all saw significat time last year and we dubbed for potential starting roles this year at a postion that we are so thin our 3 deep might include a kicker (joking, it would actually be a punter). I hope you are not taking yourself seriously if you are implying that they were removed to make room for a bigger class. Because we are so low right now on numbers right now, we could probably sign a full 30+ class this year and still have room for them.

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  • jkt360 said...

    At some point it will click with you that signing over 25 in a year is not the equivalent to oversigning. When you do, reread this thread so you can experience the comedy of many posts ITT.

    At some point, you'll get the joke. Nobody cares about numbers until their team starts signing huge classes. Then all of a sudden they can write a dissertation on justification for it. You're the prime example of it in this thread, I just didn't want to specifically call you out for it in my last post.

    PTCcock195