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They'll have one hell of a year if they do. Geno got some serious weapons.

I think Geno will win the Heisman next year... Big 12 teams don't play good defense... and they have an offense that can do some damage...

As opposed to who? ACC teams? Gyfo.

They have 6 teams in the top 12 in offense...

Clemson was not a defensive team they ... Maryland was 2-10...and why are you even arguing with me? I never said ACC had great defense... never came out of my mouth... I said the big 12 had terrible defense and those "good" offenses were not good in OOC games against quality teams... look at the Big 12s defense rankings they are all very low...

Come on Mountie everyone knew Maryland sucked last year, and Clemson had a terrible defense. I have seen your offense play against some decent defenses, and get bea or struggle. Of course it was when Geno and the rest of the team was trying to get used to the offense

First year in the system, that is true. Team still put up over 500 yards on LSU and scored 21 points doing it. That was the #1 or #2 defense last year. WVU defense just couldn't get a stop.

My question is... Since the SEC offenses aren't highly ranked, do they suck or is it because of SEC defenses?

I'm actually wondering why you are arguing with me? I pretty much just said your QB and your offense which I respect was going to put up numbers capable of getting him a heisman...where is that a bad thing... and by the way the Big 12s defense suck and everyone knows it... there was one year where 4 QBs in that conference had 5k yds with less than 10int... that is terrible defense in my opinion...

Edit:My link wasn't working at first...
NCAA Football Statistics
2011-12 NCAA FBS Team Total Defense
Updated: 11/27/2011 - 10:37 AM
RANK TEAM GP PLAY YARDS AVG TD YPG
1. Alabama 12 676 2295 3.39 12 191.25
2. LSU 12 743 2981 4.01 13 248.42
3. Michigan St. 12 770 3200 4.16 24 266.67
4. South Carolina 12 773 3227 4.17 25 268.92
5. Georgia 12 742 3253 4.38 27 271.08
6. Florida St. 12 789 3295 4.18 23 274.58
7. Wisconsin 12 722 3338 4.62 23 278.17
8. Illinois 12 783 3501 4.47 29 291.75
9. Texas 11 736 3273 4.45 25 297.55
10. Florida 12 788 3595 4.56 31 299.58
11. Penn St. 12 823 3611 4.39 22 300.92
12. Virginia Tech 12 738 3624 4.91 24 302.00
13. UCF 12 732 3640 4.97 25 303.33
14. Rutgers 12 763 3773 4.94 27 314.42
15. Temple 12 766 3786 4.94 22 315.50
16. Michigan 12 727 3811 5.24 26 317.58
17. BYU 11 710 3503 4.93 27 318.45
18. Arkansas St. 11 769 3535 4.60 26 321.36
19. Vanderbilt 12 798 3895 4.88 31 324.58
20. Kent St. 12 805 3914 4.86 32 326.17
21. Boise St. 11 682 3590 5.26 30 326.36
22. Louisville 12 796 3934 4.94 29 327.83
23. Ohio St. 12 777 3943 5.07 30 328.58
24. Stanford 12 758 3977 5.25 32 331.42
25. West Virginia 11 763 3687 4.83 35 335.18
26. Southern Miss. 12 870 4061 4.67 29 338.42
27. California 12 781 4073 5.22 36 339.42
28. Tennessee 12 752 4086 5.43 33 340.50
29. La.-Monroe 11 745 3766 5.06 40 342.36
30. Utah 12 847 4113 4.86 28 342.75
31. Virginia 12 801 4118 5.14 33 343.17
32. FIU 12 855 4171 4.88 28 347.58
33. Notre Dame 12 827 4191 5.07 31 349.25
34. South Fla. 11 810 3852 4.76 28 350.18
35. Eastern Mich. 12 779 4204 5.40 34 350.33
36. Nebraska 12 819 4208 5.14 36 350.67
36. Ohio 12 831 4208 5.06 33 350.67
38. SMU 12 847 4215 4.98 36 351.25
39. North Carolina St. 12 787 4223 5.37 36 351.92
40. North Carolina 12 835 4235 5.07 33 352.92
41. Pittsburgh 11 789 3913 4.96 29 355.73
42. Mississippi St. 12 884 4271 4.83 26 355.92
43. Miami (FL) 12 788 4319 5.48 28 359.92
44. Georgia Tech 12 786 4334 5.51 41 361.17
45. TCU 11 742 3992 5.38 30 362.91
46. Miami (OH) 12 829 4364 5.26 36 363.67
47. Army 11 657 4002 6.09 42 363.82
48. Utah St. 11 822 4019 4.89 39 365.36
49. Cincinnati 11 795 4081 5.13 24 371.00
49. Connecticut 11 739 4081 5.52 33 371.00
51. Arkansas 12 842 4457 5.29 36 371.42
52. Oklahoma 11 799 4103 5.14 28 373.00
53. Western Ky. 12 762 4485 5.89 39 373.75
54. Southern California 12 826 4497 5.44 37 374.75
55. Louisiana Tech 12 914 4498 4.92 33 374.83
56. Hawaii 12 823 4506 5.48 45 375.50
57. San Diego St. 11 760 4134 5.44 35 375.82
58. East Carolina 12 814 4516 5.55 51 376.33
59. Kentucky 12 829 4524 5.46 36 377.00
60. Houston 12 901 4532 5.03 31 377.67
61. Nevada 11 721 4158 5.77 41 378.00
62. Missouri 12 889 4587 5.16 36 382.25
63. Clemson 12 824 4602 5.58 41 383.50
64. Oregon 12 934 4616 4.94 34 384.67
65. Buffalo 12 829 4618 5.57 46 384.83
66. Texas A&M 12 941 4638 4.93 42 386.50
67. Iowa 12 900 4651 5.17 34 387.58
68. Purdue 12 851 4662 5.48 39 388.50
69. Fla. Atlantic 11 804 4283 5.33 48 389.36
70. Air Force 12 826 4685 5.67 44 390.42
71. Syracuse 11 781 4304 5.51 35 391.27
72. La.-Lafayette 12 882 4718 5.35 45 393.17
73. Boston College 12 845 4732 5.60 31 394.33
74. Wake Forest 12 866 4789 5.53 40 399.08
75. Toledo 12 818 4813 5.88 50 401.08
76. Kansas St. 11 768 4417 5.75 39 401.55
77. Minnesota 12 812 4837 5.96 51 403.08
78. Auburn 12 855 4869 5.69 43 405.75
79. Bowling Green 12 862 4872 5.65 42 406.00
80. Northwestern 12 802 4891 6.10 42 407.58
81. Washington St. 12 787 4915 6.25 49 409.58
82. Tulane 13 889 5334 6.00 62 410.31
83. Oregon St. 12 840 4935 5.88 51 411.25
84. UCLA 12 827 4943 5.98 48 411.92
85. Colorado St. 11 739 4543 6.15 47 413.00
86. Navy 11 754 4591 6.09 44 417.36
87. Marshall 12 871 5014 5.76 46 417.83
88. Arizona St. 12 834 5027 6.03 38 418.92
89. Ole Miss 12 806 5032 6.24 49 419.33
90. Tulsa 12 945 5048 5.34 43 420.67
91. Northern Ill. 12 902 5060 5.61 50 421.67
92. Idaho 11 813 4655 5.73 43 423.18
93. Duke 12 779 5105 6.55 47 425.42
94. San Jose St. 12 842 5108 6.07 46 425.67
95. Washington 12 832 5116 6.15 49 426.33
96. Akron 12 841 5126 6.10 59 427.17
97. Central Mich. 12 868 5145 5.93 48 428.75
98. Fresno St. 12 811 5170 6.37 55 430.83
99. Western Mich. 12 849 5209 6.14 44 434.08
100. Wyoming 11 782 4781 6.11 41 434.64
101. Middle Tenn. 11 843 4806 5.70 51 436.91
102. Iowa St. 11 853 4829 5.66 37 439.00
103. Colorado 13 868 5711 6.58 63 439.31
104. UTEP 12 838 5298 6.32 47 441.50
105. North Texas 11 782 4921 6.29 48 447.36
106. UNLV 11 761 4933 6.48 56 448.45
107. Oklahoma St. 11 925 4990 5.39 38 453.64
108. Maryland 12 937 5486 5.85 53 457.17
109. New Mexico St. 12 874 5493 6.28 62 457.75
110. Indiana 12 854 5504 6.44 55 458.67
111. Arizona 12 839 5526 6.59 54 460.50
112. Rice 12 856 5545 6.48 53 462.08
113. Troy 11 850 5091 5.99 46 462.82
114. Baylor 11 833 5173 6.21 53 470.27
115. Texas Tech 12 904 5827 6.45 62 485.58
115. UAB 12 869 5827 6.71 58 485.58
117. New Mexico 11 795 5362 6.74 64 487.45
118. Memphis 12 887 5892 6.64 55 491.00
119. Ball St. 12 904 6124 6.77 54 510.33
120. Kansas 12 866 6197 7.16 68 516.42

Not sure why you are giving me SEC defensive numbers. I asked about SEC offensive numbers. Why are they so low? is it because of terrible offenses, or good defenses?

GOOD DEFENSES! Just saying this because of the proximity I was to the game, but look at South Carolina. Their offense did very well against us in the bowl game

Alright, so help me understand your logic.

6 Big 12 teams in the top 10 on offense = bad Big 12 defense.

6 SEC teams in the top 10 on defense = good defense.

Gotcha. Makes total sense in all aspects.