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Barton S said...
I'll give you that. Im not really trying to argue how good of a coach he is. I'm arguing it's a poor hire from a recruitig perspective.
If within that you're getting wound up over the use of the word "good" in describing him as a coach then, well, I don't know what to tell you. I don't feel that strongly one way or the other. The point I do feel strongly about is that they could have done better from a recruiting perspective.
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Barton S said...
I think that's a fair presumption and I don't disagree but let me play devil's advocate. Why was he getting Florida athletes to come up to Wisconsin? The primary selling point was "take your SEC speed and come outrun these Midwestern boys". Throw that pitch out the window in the SEC.
He'll prob be able to recruit a little better at Arky than Wisky but he'll have to be able to recruit significantly better to compete in the SEC west than big Ten an I don't see any reason to think that will happen.
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ctate1906 said...
Barton Simmons is an idiot. Every major national sports media all agreed that Arkansas got the best hire. Malzahn has one year head coaching experience and it is in the sunbelt. You have no idea how he is going to do at Auburn. He is less proven than Chizik when he was hired. We got a grand slam, while the other sec teams had singles.
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slytyger1618 said...
I would start w Nick Saban came from the Big10 and Les Miles came from the Big12. Both had NO "SEC" recruiting experience, which is slightly tougher now because of those two, but I believe if you can recruit then you can recruit anywhere. If Beleima was able to recruit Florida players to Wisconsin then I think it's fair to think he'll be fine. Only time will tell though. VFL!!
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It doesn't matter how Bielema won his Big Ten titles...HE WON THEM! I don't see LSU fans or Auburn fans or Bama fans saying "Well, it's nice that we won the SEC, but there should be an astericks next to this one since so-and-so was on probation." Give me a freakin break! Excuses are like buttholes...everybody has one and they all stink. Bielema is a great coach, and was a consistent winner on a national level with average talent. Gus has been a head coach for exactly 1 season, Stoops has never been a head coach, and Jones won at a Big East school. It's not that hard Hog-haters. Oh, and Simmons, you should know better.
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It doesn't matter how Bielema won his Big Ten titles...HE WON THEM! I don't see LSU fans or Auburn fans or Bama fans saying "Well, it's nice that we won the SEC, but there should be an astericks next to this one since so-and-so was on probation." Give me a freakin break! Excuses are like buttholes...everybody has one and they all stink. Bielema is a great coach, and was a consistent winner on a national level with average talent. Gus has been a head coach for exactly 1 season, Stoops has never been a head coach, and Jones won at a Big East school. It's not that hard Hog-haters. Oh, and Simmons, you should know better.
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It doesn't matter how Bielema won his Big Ten titles...HE WON THEM! I don't see LSU fans or Auburn fans or Bama fans saying "Well, it's nice that we won the SEC, but there should be an astericks next to this one since so-and-so was on probation." Give me a freakin break! Excuses are like buttholes...everybody has one and they all stink. Bielema is a great coach, and was a consistent winner on a national level with average talent. Gus has been a head coach for exactly 1 season, Stoops has never been a head coach, and Jones won at a Big East school. It's not that hard Hog-haters. Oh, and Simmons, you should know better.
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