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Gun enthusiasts.........This is my newest purchase

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goodnews said...
Thanks for the info. Very informative. I've never fired any of my hollow points b/c I always use FMJ at the range. I hope I never have to use the hollow points clip either.
So, the M-16 and .223 (ballistic tip) aren't far from each other?

The old military issue M-16's are 5.56 caliber. The AR-15's are 5.56/.223 caliber.
The 5.56 and .223 are the exact same size in dimension. 90% of all AR's can fire either bullet. There are some that are only safe to fire the .223. The 5.56 creates more pressure when fired than a .223. So make sure if you or your dad gets an AR-15 that it's one that can fire either round safely. It will be marked on the barrel. Just keep in mind, the ballistic chart as far as power and speed isn't a lot different for either bullet and they are the exact same size in appearance.
Main point: if you buy an AR that's chambered for 5.56 it can shoot either bullet. If you buy one chambered for.223 it can only safely shoot the .223 even though both will chamber just fine because both are the exact size.
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The old military issue M-16's are 5.56 caliber. The AR-15's are 5.56/.223 caliber.
The 5.56 and .223 are the exact same size in dimension. 90% of all AR's can fire either bullet. There are some that are only safe to fire the .223. The 5.56 creates more pressure when fired than a .223. So make sure if you or your dad gets an AR-15 that it's one that can fire either round safely. It will be marked on the barrel. Just keep in mind, the ballistic chart as far as power and speed isn't a lot different for either bullet and they are the exact same size in appearance.
Main point: if you buy an AR that's chambered for 5.56 it can shoot either bullet. If you buy one chambered for.223 it can only safely shoot the .223 even though both will chamber just fine because both are the exact size.

I can dig it my man. Thanks very much. It's similar to trying to fing a .357 through a .38. Both aretechnically the same cailber, but .38 can't handle pressure produced by a .357.
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I can dig it my man. Thanks very much. It's similar to trying to fing a .357 through a .38. Both aretechnically the same cailber, but .38 can't handle pressure produced by a .357.

Yep. And the velocity of both at 100,200 and 300 yards is pretty close to the same.
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How much does an AR like that go for?
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Zzyzx Rd. said...
I'm looking for something that I could learn to be accurate with from 1,000 to 1,500 yards and a range to practice on. Any advice?

Are you already dead nutz up to 500 yds? Get there first, imo.
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TP30 said...
One is loaded with these ballistic tips for home defense.
Although, I hope I never have to shoot a round outta the home defense clip.

Do you have children or close neighbors? Is an AR a good idea for home defense? A shotty or pistol would be safer (bullets less likely to pass through walls). The ballistic tips will fragment obivously, but just choose your bullets carefully.
Sweet AR, btw.

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MildReTIDEation said...
Do you have children or close neighbors? Is an AR a good idea for home defense? A shotty or pistol would be safer (bullets less likely to pass through walls). The ballistic tips will fragment obivously, but just choose your bullets carefully.
Sweet AR, btw.

I know you are ex-military, so you have a lot more experience that I do, but I am curious for arming my own home. Currently, I don't have my AR set up for home defense because of fear of pass throughs.
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MildReTIDEation said...
I know you are ex-military, so you have a lot more experience that I do, but I am curious for arming my own home. Currently, I don't have my AR set up for home defense because of fear of pass throughs.

I've got a magazine loaded with Ballistic tips. Once the tip touches anything, it expands and starts mushrooming violently. If in the small chance it ever made it through sheet rock, wood siding, then its only traveling around 4-5 feet with hardly no velocity. FMJ on the other hand would be dangerous. I've got a few other choices as well for home defense so I'd probably grab the shotgun or handgun. But the AR can make a nice home defense weapon.
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buttesnake said...
How much does an AR like that go for?

Retail on mine with all te accessories would cost around 1150.00 I didn't pay that. I bought it off a guy who needed money.
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MildReTIDEation said...
Are you already dead nutz up to 500 yds? Get there first, imo.

No. I'm OK short range but I've never taken shooting seriously. Until I find a good range to do what I want to do, and I've been told there isn't one, I'm not getting into it at all. I understand I will have to grow into the big boy shooting. Just want to know there's a place to do it.
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Zzyzx Rd. said...
No. I'm OK short range but I've never taken shooting seriously. Until I find a good range to do what I want to do, and I've been told there isn't one, I'm not getting into it at all. I understand I will have to grow into the big boy shooting. Just want to know there's a place to do it.

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TP30 said...
Retail on mine with all te accessories would cost around 1150.00 I didn't pay that. I bought it off a guy who needed money.

Cool thanks.
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TP30 said...
.223's and 5.56 (which is the NATO round equal to the .223) have been used in combat for years. They are plenty powerful enough. The bullet itself is a bit small so I have done a ton of research and they make a ballistic tip bullet for these rounds. I have 3 magazines right now. One is loaded with these ballistic tips for home defense.The other 2 I use in the range with full metal jacket ammo. The AR-15 and it's predecessor, the M-16 have been killing men for years :)
Although, I hope I never have to shoot a round outta the home defense clip.

All tru but I will add one thing. The rounds used in the Army (not sure about civillian) are designed to mame not kill. Supposed to ricochet off of bones and cause damage but not kill instantly. Atleast that's what we were told in Basic, may very well be BS.
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