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Gunner Kiel, I'll say it...

  • Thanks for the correction. Been swamped with work & haven't been able to keep up.

    Sin City Tider

  • Barton S said...

    I have serious questions on whether or not Gunner will be successful on the next level. We made him a 5star and theres no going back on that. He certainly has five-star talent. But history shows that commitment wafflers have a bad track record of living up to their potential and gunner had some of the biggest waffling I've ever seen.

    I worry about a quarterback that handles the recruiting process the way he has. I hope he's successful but I'm starting to have some serious doubts.

    agreed hopefully we are wrong.

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  • Sin City Tider said...

    It makes no sense why Kiel is a 5* & Winston is a 4*. Winston has outperformed Kiel in every venue they have competed in and Winston seems more stable.

    Our QB is a 5* your is a 4*! moon

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  • PIIHB RNP said...

    Pryor was a very good college QB. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about. Was he an idiot? yes, but there is zero doubt he is inbetween that very good and great level of college QBs. He lived up to his 5 star hype IMO.

    Pryor was a good college QB. I think the point is, that if you treat your recruitment like this you add so much pressure to a game that is hard enough by itself. Pryor had success, but his inconsistancy is also what led to the Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl instead of BCSCG's at least one of those years. tOSU was stacked while he was there and should have been able to run the table at least one of those years as the B1G was as far down as it had ever been while he was at tOSU. When you couple that the controversy that ended his college career, I don't think one can judge his career as a success, although he was a good QB. He just left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

    BetterOff

  • Action Figure said...

    Haha, forget switching schools, didn't this kid switch All Star games too? Word is he flipped to the Army game from the UA game because he didn't make the final cut for the Elite 11. lol

    That's what ESPN guys are saying.shrug Who really knows? The USA Today article that stated his mom was crying and forced his hand was from some writer that Kiel didn't even talk to. I believe Steve W has been the point man on all the Kiel news.

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  • star69 said...

    Our QB is a 5* your is a 4*! moon

    Just think.........you could have had Montana's kid............who would have transferred just like he did from WA. And Crist.

    Seriously though, QBs are a different category and there seems to be more of them transferring than other positions and it rarely seems to pay off. Other positions have a bit better success rate. USC has had lots of wafflers with some who really did well elsewhere like Te'o and CJ Spiller and others not so much like Henderson and Hazelton. I never did understand why Mustain came out here.

    wild pony714

  • wild pony714 said...

    Just think.........you could have had Montana's kid............who would have transferred just like he did from WA. And Crist.

    Seriously though, QBs are a different category and there seems to be more of them transferring than other positions and it rarely seems to pay off. Other positions have a bit better success rate. USC has had lots of wafflers with some who really did well elsewhere like Te'o and CJ Spiller and others not so much like Henderson and Hazelton. I never did understand why Mustain came out here.

    Very true.. Joe isn't happy with ND, so his son was never a real possibility.

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  • star69 said...

    Very true.. Joe isn't happy with ND, so his son was never a real possibility.

    Why is Joe unhappy? His son's transfer away from Sark is strange. He's a great QB coach and a very solid person. Jr isn't that great.

    wild pony714

  • wild pony714 said...

    I never did understand why Mustain came out here.

    I have reflected on this and I really think it started when USC went back to Fayetteville and kicked the snot out of Arky. Both Mustain and Damien Williams saw how good USC was and how QBs and WRs were used by USC's staff. After Williams left and the s**t hit the fan with Mustain's mom and the coaches he just picked a spot his buddy was going to and that he remembered looking like a good place to play.

    If that whole blow up wouldn't have happened he probably would have stayed at Arky and hung in there. I don't know how good he would have been but he would have been under terrible pressure from the local press. I think that's another reason he wen't 2,000 miles away.

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  • Freeze said...

    Zeke Pike probably deserves that star. He's never waffled.

    lol

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  • wild pony714 said...

    Why is Joe unhappy? His son's transfer away from Sark is strange. He's a great QB coach and a very solid person. Jr isn't that great.

    He left UW because he would most likely be sitting behind Price for next season, if not two seasons. He basically said he wants a chance to play, and is looking at a JC for next year so he doesn't have to sit out.

    "The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams" - Dio

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  • last thing you want in a QB is a guy that cant make a decision

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  • star69 said...

    Our QB is a 5* your is a 4*! moon

    Uhh.. That would be FSU's QB at this point.. our's is a 3 star and I'm ok with that moon

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  • dbamafan said...

    Uhh.. That would be FSU's QB at this point.. our's is a 3 star and I'm ok with that moon

    McCarron was a pretty highly ranked 4 star.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    McCarron was a pretty highly ranked 4 star.

    He's also got a championship, good luck to Kiel at ND with that.

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    SickNaban

  • give it 3.5 weeks and he will be at Penn State, then USC then Oregon, then Auburn, then back home and lead the Ball State team to the MAC title!

    Roll Tide! Tyler Jones

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  • fsufsu said...

    McCarron was a pretty highly ranked 4 star.

    I think he meant Alec Morris. Our QB in this class.

    BetterOff

  • BetterOff said...

    I think he meant Alec Morris. Our QB in this class.

    Yup.. I was just about to post that. Glad to have him; he had a great senior season.

    AJ answered a bunch of questions this season. I see him locked for the immediate future. Everyone has seen the debate about whether Phillip Sims will jump to UVA.. who knows? That leaves Bama with Ely and Alec Morris with Blake Sims as an emergency QB I would think. Not a lot of depth so I expect the QB position to get big attention by CNS and staff in 2013.

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    Don't like Rammer Jammer? Probably because you just lost to Bama... Get ready to hear it again... and often...

    dbamafan

  • Tjones826 said...

    give it 3.5 weeks and he will be at Penn State, then USC then Oregon, then Auburn, then back home and lead the Ball State team to the MAC title!

    lol

    This post was edited by dbamafan on 1/17/2012 at 1:11 PM

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    Don't like Rammer Jammer? Probably because you just lost to Bama... Get ready to hear it again... and often...

    dbamafan

  • Tjones826 said...

    give it 3.5 weeks and he will be at Penn State, then USC then Oregon, then Auburn, then back home and lead the Ball State team to the MAC title!

    roflmao

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    irishyoung

  • This guy is a joke.

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  • Macdaddy7930 said...

    This guy is a joke.

    your kid might be a little old to be on the tit twocents

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    irishyoung

  • This fruitcake of a QB is the reason Patrick Miller left.

    If I see him i'm punching him in the face.

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    Danielle Hunter, Jamario Rasco, Anthony FREAK Johnson.. DL wrecking crew of 2013.

    Lesticals

  • nice deflect. gunner does know his mommy can't be on the sideline or in class with him right!?

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  • Barton S said...

    I have serious questions on whether or not Gunner will be successful on the next level. We made him a 5star and theres no going back on that. He certainly has five-star talent. But history shows that commitment wafflers have a bad track record of living up to their potential and gunner had some of the biggest waffling I've ever seen.

    I worry about a quarterback that handles the recruiting process the way he has. I hope he's successful but I'm starting to have some serious doubts.

    He's definitely better than Zach Kline and Travis Wilson. Travis Wilson at a 96 is the most comical ranking I've seen.

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