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  • cjkarl20 said...

    They were great teams and late 80s-90s basketball was a more physical game than what it is today.

    During that time (85-90) the Knicks were losing in the Eastern conference semis or the first round, the cavs were losing in the first round, and the Hawks were losing in the eastern conference semis or the first round. The Spurs, Magic, and Bulls have all done better than that at least once over the last few years.

    Yes it was more physical, but those three teams were merely just good teams at the time.

    This post was edited by joetheogre on 8/10/2012 at 11:14 PM

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  • CRgator1 said...

    So where do you factor in 30 yr old Wade into your equation?

    If you dont want to go by seasons, you cant ise LBJ's finals mvp/title without comparing Wade vs Pippen, Bosh vs Kukoc or Rodman.

    You are being hypocritical, because you are defending LBJs run in Clev w/o hardware, being the fault of a bad team. But, you fail to point out that When MJ was 27, Scottie Pippen was just entering his 1st all star gm.

    Just do your research and try again.

    Not gonna sit here and go ad nauseum defending Lebron. His resume is damn impressive and speaks for itself. He has accomplished quite a bit for a 27 year old player.

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  • joetheogre said...

    Not gonna sit here and go ad nauseum defending Lebron. His resume is damn impressive and speaks for itself. He has accomplished quite a bit for a 27 year old player.

    What do you do when you're not making any sense?

    You change your premise.

    You're Welcome.

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  • CRgator1 said...

    What do you do when you're not making any sense?

    You change your premise.

    You're Welcome.

    Premise hasn't changed. Lebron at 27 has accomplished more than MJ at 27. Just facts. There are different reasons for why it happened, but Lebron has accomplished more. We'll see if the rest of his career plays out the same way.

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  • joetheogre said...

    Premise hasn't changed. Lebron at 27 has accomplished more than MJ at 27. Just facts. There are different reasons for why it happened, but Lebron has accomplished more. We'll see if the rest of his career plays out the same way.

    NM

    This post was edited by cjkarl20 on 8/10/2012 at 11:02 PM

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  • joetheogre said...

    Premise hasn't changed. Lebron at 27 has accomplished more than MJ at 27. Just facts. There are different reasons for why it happened, but Lebron has accomplished more. We'll see if the rest of his career plays out the same way.

    I was just foolin with you.

    LBJ is a bad man, I agree with you there.

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  • Clarkw267 said...

    Starting fast is nice... he's still got 5 more rings to win.

    As a Heat fan from day 1 (as opposed to the multitude of Heat band wagoneers that populate this thread solely for the purpose LBJ worship, and who admittedly will drop their affinity for the Heat the day LBJ leaves town), truer words were never spoken.

    The LBJ story is not yet written. But don't even think of comparing him to MJ right now by cherry picking stats...you only make yourself look incredibly foolish.

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  • joetheogre said...

    I definitely agree. Just pointing out that he is off to a fantastic start. James still has 5 or 6 prime years left and 3 or 4 very good years after that. .

    this is true...but don't act like he's in MJ's realm based upon what he's accomplished thus far.

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  • CRgator1 said...

    I was just foolin with you.

    LBJ is a bad man, I agree with you there.

    He is my boy all the way. I honest to God didn't intend to have a four page debate with TBB. I really only wanted to bump the Heatles thread and post some Lebron trivia.

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  • ftlaudcock said...

    this is true...but don't act like he's in MJ's realm based upon what he's accomplished thus far.

    I'm definitely not, I was just saying that theres a chance. LBJ needs probably 5 before we can really have this conversation for real.

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  • When Cock boy has to be the voice of reason you know you've crossed the line.

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  • BamaShack said...

    Haha. You Jordan lovers crack me up. Lebron would kick MJs ass.

    A fair argument could be made that LBJ is perhaps the most athletically gifted player to play in the NBA.

    MJ was a stone cold killer.

    Don't confuse the two.

    As much as I appreciate everything LBJ's doing for the Heat, don't think for a minute he's currently comparable to MJ.

    Nothing is more vomit inducing than the ignorant posts of those benighted souls who equate or even prefer abundant athletic gifts to unparalleled accomplishment.

    This post was edited by ftlaudcock on 8/10/2012 at 11:34 PM

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  • I absolutely H-A-T-E Lebron....but the guy is clearly an all-time great. If he retires today, he's a top 15 all time player. If he can somehow win at least 4 rings, IMHO, he should be considered the greatest player to ever play the game. Dude is as big as Karl Malone, but plays like a combo of Magic and Jordan. At this point, physically, he's already there.....from here on out its all mental with him...and it looks like he's starting to figure that out also. Lord help us all!

    That being said, Lakers in 6 in the 2013 finals. megaphone

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  • And also age 27

    Kobe >>>>>> MJ + LBJ

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  • randy88moss said...

    Kobe >>>>>> MJ + LBJ

    Hahaha, nice

    How many generations of inbreeding were needed for you to formulate this "thought"

    This post was edited by ftlaudcock on 8/11/2012 at 12:03 AM

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  • ftlaudcock said...

    Hahaha, nice

    How many generations of inbreeding were needed for you to formulate this "thought"

    You are on Fiyah again....where do you come up with this stuff? Although..POTD won't take too kindly to it....

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  • randy88moss said...

    And also age 27

    Kobe >>>>>> MJ + LBJ

    I'm a laker fan but good god what a stupid statement.

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  • bamaman79 said...

    biggrin

    Lolz

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  • BBucksorBeGone8 said...

    Lolz

    locoKidz these days...

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  • bamaman79 said...

    biggrin

    haha that's awesome +1

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  • Heat are the champs hahahahahahahahahahahahaha I love this thread.

    Bring on the old ass lakers. Nice job u already had a good center and exited quietly. Have fun leaving in the second round again.

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  • randy88moss said...

    I absolutely H-A-T-E Lebron....but the guy is clearly an all-time great. If he retires today, he's a top 15 all time player. If he can somehow win at least 4 rings, IMHO, he should be considered the greatest player to ever play the game. Dude is as big as Karl Malone, but plays like a combo of Magic and Jordan. At this point, physically, he's already there.....from here on out its all mental with him...and it looks like he's starting to figure that out also. Lord help us all!

    That being said, Lakers in 6 in the 2013 finals. megaphone

    Agree with all of this, but Heat for the repeat.

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  • Hskr4Life23 said...

    Heat are the champs hahahahahahahahahahahahaha I love this thread.

    Bring on the old ass lakers. Nice job u already had a good center and exited quietly. Have fun leaving in the second round again.

    Yeah hahaha. It'll be interesting to see. I wonder how much better the Lakers got

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