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Higgs Boson

  • Anyone keeping up on this? Very interesting.

    This post was edited by Fuzz on 7/4/2012 at 10:36 AM

    Fuzz

  • They are announcing their findings at midnight PST aren't they? Lots of stuff floating around that they are going to announce that it is the Higgs Boson and the problems it could cause (because based on speculation it is simpler than what it was supposed to be and doesn't matchup with the projections of it).

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  • A Higgs Boson walks into a church. He is immediately blocked by a priest, who declares "We DO NOT allow your kind in here!" The Higgs Boson then asks, "Well without me, how can you have mass?"

    Lame, I know, but I laughed.

    This post was edited by MsnBama on 7/4/2012 at 11:01 AM

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  • I just wiki'd Higgs Boson. Mind is currently in full blown mode.

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    MarineMountie

  • MarineMountie said...

    I just wiki'd Higgs Boson. Mind is currently in full blown mode.

    I did the same thing. I'm still confused as to what the hell is going on. Why smash particles together? I don't get it. I hated science in school.

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    wps88

  • For anyone who understands what exactly (or close to), please explain. I read skimmed thru a couple articles and on wiki and don't see the mention of God.

    DavidsonNCCock

  • No idea what you guys are taking about. Please explain

    Coastal Eer

  • Coastal Eer said...

    No idea what you guys are taking about. Please explain

    Don't listen to it. It's the work of Lucifer.

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  • MsnBama said...

    A Higgs Boson walks into a church. He is immediately blocked by a priest, who declares "We DO NOT allow your kind in here!" The Higgs Boson then asks, "Well without me, how can you have mass?"

    Lame, I know, but I laughed silently in my head.

    That actually was funny.

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  • big john said...

    Don't listen to it. It's the work of Lucifer.

    Why would it be that? It's a great discovery but will do nothing to disprove God's existence.

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  • very interested but hate the title "God" particle...this is huge and brings about a new age of particle physics and understanding to the likes of which we have never seen before

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    greensooner

  • big john said...

    Don't listen to it. It's the work of Lucifer.

    Lucifer/God...not important in this discussion...this is the work of a great civilization (us) learning to become better and fully grasp things

    This post was edited by greensooner on 7/4/2012 at 9:20 AM

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  • Here's what I have...

    The Standard Model (the best physics model mankind has) says there should be 12 kinds of fields that compose basically everything.

    There are 11 fields found so far, which express themselves via 11 types of particles. These have all been seen.

    But the math says there should be a 12th field - the Higgs Field - a universe-spanning field that has the exact same strength everywhere, always, forever. But a particle of its kind has never been seen.

    Why are there only 11 eggs in a carton made to hold 12? Let's find the last one.

    The Theory:

    Particles are events happening in fields. Particle + Field 4eva. Particles are not -solid things-. They can come and go. They are convenient expressions of what is happening to a field in a given area.

    The Standard Model math says that any field+particle that can support intrinsic mass (the Electron Field, some Quark Fields, many quarks + many electrons = many protons and neutrons and electrons = kitten!) does so only because it is geared into the Higgs Field.

    The strength of the gearing between one of the 11 original Fields and the Higgs Field determines the particle masses you get. This is why some particles have more mass than others. How are the strengths chosen? Who knows!

    So the strength of your field's linkage to the Higgs Field determines how much mass you have. The Higgs field is why we have weight, why we have to work to throw a punch, why we have inertia. Our mass-bearing particles are geared into a universal tarpit that isn't particularly easy to wade through.

    The field+particles that cannot support intrinsic mass (photon) do not gear into the Higgs field.

    The Experiments:

    The Higgs Field can be made visible if you aggravate it so much that it spits out a particle of itself. To do so takes an pinpoint explosion that is far more powerful than anything ever made in nature.

    That is exactly what the particle accelerators do! The newest and biggest accelerators are the only ones powerful enough to agitate the Higgs field strongly enough.

    In a particle accelerator explosion, a Higgs boson (particle!) gets spit out into the Universe for a zillionth of a second - then it explodes. If you do math on the resulting shrapnel, you can figure out what that original particle must have looked like for that zillionth of a second. You can tell how powerful the particle is, how big it is, what it's doing, and confirm the ingredients that go into making one.

    Tonight's Punchline:

    Scientists are now 99.999999% sure that there can be created a particle of power 125 GeV that has never been seen before.

    Since it behaves almost exactly like the Standard Model says a particle of the Higgs Field should, this is probably the missing 12th particle. Fields that can draw mass, draw their mass from this field.

    The Standard Model looks really good. More complicated theories lose. The carton has all 12 eggs. Yay science!

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  • greensooner said...

    Here's what I have...

    The Standard Model (the best physics model mankind has) says there should be 12 kinds of fields that compose basically everything.

    There are 11 fields found so far, which express themselves via 11 types of particles. These have all been seen.

    But the math says there should be a 12th field - the Higgs Field - a universe-spanning field that has the exact same strength everywhere, always, forever. But a particle of its kind has never been seen.

    Why are there only 11 eggs in a carton made to hold 12? Let's find the last one.

    The Theory:

    Particles are events happening in fields. Particle + Field 4eva. Particles are not -solid things-. They can come and go. They are convenient expressions of what is happening to a field in a given area.

    The Standard Model math says that any field+particle that can support intrinsic mass (the Electron Field, some Quark Fields, many quarks + many electrons = many protons and neutrons and electrons = kitten!) does so only because it is geared into the Higgs Field.

    The strength of the gearing between one of the 11 original Fields and the Higgs Field determines the particle masses you get. This is why some particles have more mass than others. How are the strengths chosen? Who knows!

    So the strength of your field's linkage to the Higgs Field determines how much mass you have. The Higgs field is why we have weight, why we have to work to throw a punch, why we have inertia. Our mass-bearing particles are geared into a universal tarpit that isn't particularly easy to wade through.

    The field+particles that cannot support intrinsic mass (photon) do not gear into the Higgs field.

    The Experiments:

    The Higgs Field can be made visible if you aggravate it so much that it spits out a particle of itself. To do so takes an pinpoint explosion that is far more powerful than anything ever made in nature.

    That is exactly what the particle accelerators do! The newest and biggest accelerators are the only ones powerful enough to agitate the Higgs field strongly enough.

    In a particle accelerator explosion, a Higgs boson (particle!) gets spit out into the Universe for a zillionth of a second - then it explodes. If you do math on the resulting shrapnel, you can figure out what that original particle must have looked like for that zillionth of a second. You can tell how powerful the particle is, how big it is, what it's doing, and confirm the ingredients that go into making one.

    Tonight's Punchline:

    Scientists are now 99.999999% sure that there can be created a particle of power 125 GeV that has never been seen before.

    Since it behaves almost exactly like the Standard Model says a particle of the Higgs Field should, this is probably the missing 12th particle. Fields that can draw mass, draw their mass from this field.

    The Standard Model looks really good. More complicated theories lose. The carton has all 12 eggs. Yay science!

    what he said

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  • Anybody got a specific link where we can follow the developements?

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    tidefan25

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  • tidefan25 said...

    Anybody got a specific link where we can follow the developements?

    CERN is what I'd follow

    http://public.web.cern.ch/public/

    there are others that are more detailed but hard for me to understand everything they are saying so I follow this one more closely

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  • greensooner said...

    Here's what I have...

    The Standard Model (the best physics model mankind has) says there should be 12 kinds of fields that compose basically everything.

    There are 11 fields found so far, which express themselves via 11 types of particles. These have all been seen.

    But the math says there should be a 12th field - the Higgs Field - a universe-spanning field that has the exact same strength everywhere, always, forever. But a particle of its kind has never been seen.

    Why are there only 11 eggs in a carton made to hold 12? Let's find the last one.

    The Theory:

    Particles are events happening in fields. Particle + Field 4eva. Particles are not -solid things-. They can come and go. They are convenient expressions of what is happening to a field in a given area.

    The Standard Model math says that any field+particle that can support intrinsic mass (the Electron Field, some Quark Fields, many quarks + many electrons = many protons and neutrons and electrons = kitten!) does so only because it is geared into the Higgs Field.

    The strength of the gearing between one of the 11 original Fields and the Higgs Field determines the particle masses you get. This is why some particles have more mass than others. How are the strengths chosen? Who knows!

    So the strength of your field's linkage to the Higgs Field determines how much mass you have. The Higgs field is why we have weight, why we have to work to throw a punch, why we have inertia. Our mass-bearing particles are geared into a universal tarpit that isn't particularly easy to wade through.

    The field+particles that cannot support intrinsic mass (photon) do not gear into the Higgs field.

    The Experiments:

    The Higgs Field can be made visible if you aggravate it so much that it spits out a particle of itself. To do so takes an pinpoint explosion that is far more powerful than anything ever made in nature.

    That is exactly what the particle accelerators do! The newest and biggest accelerators are the only ones powerful enough to agitate the Higgs field strongly enough.

    In a particle accelerator explosion, a Higgs boson (particle!) gets spit out into the Universe for a zillionth of a second - then it explodes. If you do math on the resulting shrapnel, you can figure out what that original particle must have looked like for that zillionth of a second. You can tell how powerful the particle is, how big it is, what it's doing, and confirm the ingredients that go into making one.

    Tonight's Punchline:

    Scientists are now 99.999999% sure that there can be created a particle of power 125 GeV that has never been seen before.

    Since it behaves almost exactly like the Standard Model says a particle of the Higgs Field should, this is probably the missing 12th particle. Fields that can draw mass, draw their mass from this field.

    The Standard Model looks really good. More complicated theories lose. The carton has all 12 eggs. Yay science!

    explode

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  • BillyEN4C said...

    explode

    excellent response

    mind = blown on a lot of this

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  • So, no one here has a clue why we should gives a rat's ass about this news.

    VTSmitty

  • VTSmitty said...

    So, no one here has a clue why we should gives a rat's ass about this news.

    really? reading comprehension is your friend

    this is huge news and will bring about wholesale changes to quantum physics

    if you don't care that's fine because you will never deal with it

    some people might though and it's very interesting to us

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    greensooner

  • Pretty sure it's The Force, bro.

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    devidee

  • It's not that I don't care, it's just that I'm missing the particle that holds my giveashit together.

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    TheT12

  • greensooner said...

    Here's what I have...

    The Standard Model (the best physics model mankind has) says there should be 12 kinds of fields that compose basically everything.

    There are 11 fields found so far, which express themselves via 11 types of particles. These have all been seen.

    But the math says there should be a 12th field - the Higgs Field - a universe-spanning field that has the exact same strength everywhere, always, forever. But a particle of its kind has never been seen.

    Why are there only 11 eggs in a carton made to hold 12? Let's find the last one.

    The Theory:

    Particles are events happening in fields. Particle + Field 4eva. Particles are not -solid things-. They can come and go. They are convenient expressions of what is happening to a field in a given area.

    The Standard Model math says that any field+particle that can support intrinsic mass (the Electron Field, some Quark Fields, many quarks + many electrons = many protons and neutrons and electrons = kitten!) does so only because it is geared into the Higgs Field.

    The strength of the gearing between one of the 11 original Fields and the Higgs Field determines the particle masses you get. This is why some particles have more mass than others. How are the strengths chosen? Who knows!

    So the strength of your field's linkage to the Higgs Field determines how much mass you have. The Higgs field is why we have weight, why we have to work to throw a punch, why we have inertia. Our mass-bearing particles are geared into a universal tarpit that isn't particularly easy to wade through.

    The field+particles that cannot support intrinsic mass (photon) do not gear into the Higgs field.

    The Experiments:

    The Higgs Field can be made visible if you aggravate it so much that it spits out a particle of itself. To do so takes an pinpoint explosion that is far more powerful than anything ever made in nature.

    That is exactly what the particle accelerators do! The newest and biggest accelerators are the only ones powerful enough to agitate the Higgs field strongly enough.

    In a particle accelerator explosion, a Higgs boson (particle!) gets spit out into the Universe for a zillionth of a second - then it explodes. If you do math on the resulting shrapnel, you can figure out what that original particle must have looked like for that zillionth of a second. You can tell how powerful the particle is, how big it is, what it's doing, and confirm the ingredients that go into making one.

    Tonight's Punchline:

    Scientists are now 99.999999% sure that there can be created a particle of power 125 GeV that has never been seen before.

    Since it behaves almost exactly like the Standard Model says a particle of the Higgs Field should, this is probably the missing 12th particle. Fields that can draw mass, draw their mass from this field.

    The Standard Model looks really good. More complicated theories lose. The carton has all 12 eggs. Yay science!

    Thank you, this was an awesome read. You've got me pumped up for the day to learn about science:)

    MichiganFan

  • greensooner said...

    very interested but hate the title "God" particle...this is huge and brings about a new age of particle physics and understanding to the likes of which we have never seen before

    Greensooner after reading your write up, I will gladly change the thread title... Just wrote that cause I figured not many would know "higgs boson". All mind blowing stuff.

    Fuzz