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Hold on t your seats - new PSU scandal news coming

  • Leppycole said...

    What I can tell you is I know for a fact that the NCAA pressed PSU in negotiations in private with Erickson along with advisors from the FBI. The BOT was in fact given limited info to prevent leaks and some BOT members were not invited for a reason. Which is why they were so pissed and talked about an appeal. The NCAA and PSU had a goal to get the sanctions handed out before fall camp started and definitely before students returned to avoid riots and lewd behavior from a larger mass of confused/angry 18-22 year olds.

    The FBI has been working on this for almost 18 months from my understanding - how I know this is because some of my friends who work at PSU were questioned by the FBI as far back as summer of last year. My friends are just staffers an professors so I am sure they were not interviewed first.

    Also - back in fall of last year - 8-10 vans were parked outside of "the second mile" office on Atherton and there were federal agents taking boxes of files and computers out of there. Sandusky's home was seized at night and all his files and personal computers were taken. Amendola was pissed because he had to work with scanned copies of files and complained that he was in an unfair position to defend his client because the prosecution was light years ahead of him and because there was so much info - he requested more time to properly prepare a defense. The main reason he did not put Sandusky on the stand is because he felt the prosecution had more info than he had and would get pummeled. The judge denied his request.

    Many PSU fans complained that certain figures at PSU were never interviewed by Freeh and this proved his report to be worthless. The fact is the Attorney General prohibited Freeh to interview certain "people of interest" because they did not want it to jeapordize what the Feds were working in. Case in point - when Freeh was poking around Spanier questioned what was going on and immediately filed a suit to retrieve all his email history- he and his attorneys met with the Feds and he backed off.

    Mad Dog (radio guy) started to report about a child sex ring and the connections to the second mile and Sandusky. All of the sudden he shut his mouth and PSU fans were saying it was because he was full of shit - but actually the FBI advised him to put a sock in it as they were already investigating it.

    This is pandoras box

    Imagine that....

    ReasonableDoubt

  • Leppycole said...

    What I can tell you is I know for a fact that the NCAA pressed PSU in negotiations in private with Erickson along with advisors from the FBI. The BOT was in fact given limited info to prevent leaks and some BOT members were not invited for a reason. Which is why they were so pissed and talked about an appeal. The NCAA and PSU had a goal to get the sanctions handed out before fall camp started and definitely before students returned to avoid riots and lewd behavior from a larger mass of confused/angry 18-22 year olds.

    The FBI has been working on this for almost 18 months from my understanding - how I know this is because some of my friends who work at PSU were questioned by the FBI as far back as summer of last year. My friends are just staffers an professors so I am sure they were not interviewed first.

    Also - back in fall of last year - 8-10 vans were parked outside of "the second mile" office on Atherton and there were federal agents taking boxes of files and computers out of there. Sandusky's home was seized at night and all his files and personal computers were taken. Amendola was pissed because he had to work with scanned copies of files and complained that he was in an unfair position to defend his client because the prosecution was light years ahead of him and because there was so much info - he requested more time to properly prepare a defense. The main reason he did not put Sandusky on the stand is because he felt the prosecution had more info than he had and would get pummeled. The judge denied his request.

    Many PSU fans complained that certain figures at PSU were never interviewed by Freeh and this proved his report to be worthless. The fact is the Attorney General prohibited Freeh to interview certain "people of interest" because they did not want it to jeapordize what the Feds were working in. Case in point - when Freeh was poking around Spanier questioned what was going on and immediately filed a suit to retrieve all his email history- he and his attorneys met with the Feds and he backed off.

    Mad Dog (radio guy) started to report about a child sex ring and the connections to the second mile and Sandusky. All of the sudden he shut his mouth and PSU fans were saying it was because he was full of shit - but actually the FBI advised him to put a sock in it as they were already investigating it.

    This is pandoras box

    MOTHER OF GOD!censored

    Weaver9662

  • MZizzle2 said...

    Have you ever even been to NJ or you just have watched some TV shows that are horrible representations of the state?

    TV.. I just judge onto others as they judge my southern azz.

    wrightman1

  • MsnBama said...

    I've been all over the state and joke about the smell (and it does have a distinct odor in certain areas) but, as is true of all states, there are some truly nice areas. A client of mine is in Pittstown. The owner has a beautiful home on a nice piece of land. You would be hard pressed to find anyone unwilling to live where they live.

    Shrug uninformed or obviously biased statements off and remember what it feels like when reading similar remarks about other states.

    I was just joking with him like i said.

    wrightman1

  • wrightman1 said...

    I was just joking with him like i said.

    Did you use the same or similar name on rivals?

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    MsnBama

  • Ok so your opinion means nothing

    This post was edited by MZizzle2 on 8/10/2012 at 7:02 PM

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  • Leppycole said...

    What I can tell you is I know for a fact that the NCAA pressed PSU in negotiations in private with Erickson along with advisors from the FBI. The BOT was in fact given limited info to prevent leaks and some BOT members were not invited for a reason. Which is why they were so pissed and talked about an appeal. The NCAA and PSU had a goal to get the sanctions handed out before fall camp started and definitely before students returned to avoid riots and lewd behavior from a larger mass of confused/angry 18-22 year olds.

    The FBI has been working on this for almost 18 months from my understanding - how I know this is because some of my friends who work at PSU were questioned by the FBI as far back as summer of last year. My friends are just staffers an professors so I am sure they were not interviewed first.

    Also - back in fall of last year - 8-10 vans were parked outside of "the second mile" office on Atherton and there were federal agents taking boxes of files and computers out of there. Sandusky's home was seized at night and all his files and personal computers were taken. Amendola was pissed because he had to work with scanned copies of files and complained that he was in an unfair position to defend his client because the prosecution was light years ahead of him and because there was so much info - he requested more time to properly prepare a defense. The main reason he did not put Sandusky on the stand is because he felt the prosecution had more info than he had and would get pummeled. The judge denied his request.

    Many PSU fans complained that certain figures at PSU were never interviewed by Freeh and this proved his report to be worthless. The fact is the Attorney General prohibited Freeh to interview certain "people of interest" because they did not want it to jeapordize what the Feds were working in. Case in point - when Freeh was poking around Spanier questioned what was going on and immediately filed a suit to retrieve all his email history- he and his attorneys met with the Feds and he backed off.

    Mad Dog (radio guy) started to report about a child sex ring and the connections to the second mile and Sandusky. All of the sudden he shut his mouth and PSU fans were saying it was because he was full of shit - but actually the FBI advised him to put a sock in it as they were already investigating it.

    This is pandoras box

    Damn

    HNB

  • This reminds me of this. There’s an interesting Doc about it on YouTube if anyone cares.

    This is sad and disgusting.

    Franklin child prostitution ring allegations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations

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    CWEBB

  • CWEBB said...

    This reminds me of this. There’s an interesting Doc about it on YouTube if anyone cares.

    This is sad and disgusting.

    A link or title would be nice.

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    MsnBama

  • Nvm, you edited

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    MsnBama

  • Here is the latest from CBS news. One paragraph of note...

    "A source has been told that child pornography was found in at least one of Sandusky's computers. According to the source, there is no evidence that the pornography was of his victims. There is also no mention of a ring or sharing of boys with others. CBS News investigative producer Pat Milton reports that a second source said that none of Sandusky's victims have indicated that there was shared sex with them, Sandusky and any other individual."

    That doesn't mean that there wasn't a sex ring, it's just worth noting.

    Unknown Titlke

    http://m.cbsnews.com/fullstory.rbml?catid=57491185&feed_id=1&videofeed=null

    m.cbsnews.com

    getmyjive11

  • I probably missed this somewhere in the thread but when is this supposed to go all down? tomorrow or sunday?

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  • Leppycole said...

    What I can tell you is I know for a fact that the NCAA pressed PSU in negotiations in private with Erickson along with advisors from the FBI. The BOT was in fact given limited info to prevent leaks and some BOT members were not invited for a reason. Which is why they were so pissed and talked about an appeal. The NCAA and PSU had a goal to get the sanctions handed out before fall camp started and definitely before students returned to avoid riots and lewd behavior from a larger mass of confused/angry 18-22 year olds.

    The FBI has been working on this for almost 18 months from my understanding - how I know this is because some of my friends who work at PSU were questioned by the FBI as far back as summer of last year. My friends are just staffers an professors so I am sure they were not interviewed first.

    Also - back in fall of last year - 8-10 vans were parked outside of "the second mile" office on Atherton and there were federal agents taking boxes of files and computers out of there. Sandusky's home was seized at night and all his files and personal computers were taken. Amendola was pissed because he had to work with scanned copies of files and complained that he was in an unfair position to defend his client because the prosecution was light years ahead of him and because there was so much info - he requested more time to properly prepare a defense. The main reason he did not put Sandusky on the stand is because he felt the prosecution had more info than he had and would get pummeled. The judge denied his request.

    Many PSU fans complained that certain figures at PSU were never interviewed by Freeh and this proved his report to be worthless. The fact is the Attorney General prohibited Freeh to interview certain "people of interest" because they did not want it to jeapordize what the Feds were working in. Case in point - when Freeh was poking around Spanier questioned what was going on and immediately filed a suit to retrieve all his email history- he and his attorneys met with the Feds and he backed off.

    Mad Dog (radio guy) started to report about a child sex ring and the connections to the second mile and Sandusky. All of the sudden he shut his mouth and PSU fans were saying it was because he was full of shit - but actually the FBI advised him to put a sock in it as they were already investigating it.

    This is pandoras box

    Thanks for the insight.

    For all you posters that can't stand to type the words Penn State/PSU, or whatever, blame the school all you want but at the end of the day if any of this is true, it appears that this goes much deeper than PSU. Call me a homer all you want but we're talking about a state wide coverup over possibly multiple decades encompassing law enforcement officials, state legislators, governor's, etc. Could I be grasping at straws on this? Sure, but if any of this is true, PSU isn't the only fall guy in this - the entire state of PA would be deemed corrupt and a disgrace to the entire U.S.

    This post was edited by PSUjosh11 on 8/10/2012 at 8:38 PM

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  • MsnBama said...

    Did you use the same or similar name on rivals?

    No.. It was Dankydank I joined rivals and scout a year before we got Andre Smith at Bama..

    wrightman1

  • PSUjosh11 said...

    Thanks for the insight.

    For all you posters that can't stand to type the words Penn State/PSU, or whatever, blame the school all you want but at the end of the day if any of this is true, it appears that this goes much deeper than PSU. Call me a homer all you want but we're talking about a state wide coverup over possibly multiple decades encompassing law enforcement officials, state legislators, governor's, etc. Could I be grasping at straws on this? Sure, but if any of this is true, PSU isn't the only fall guy in this - the entire state of PA would be deemed corrupt and a disgrace to the entire U.S.

    Would it seriously make you feel better if there were a bunch more fall guys. Would you feel like you shared the burden like a slice of pie? Wake up.

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  • fishdiddy said...

    Would it seriously make you feel better if there were a bunch more fall guys. Would you feel like you shared the burden like a slice of pie? Wake up.

    No, it would be much sadder. But how much of a burden should the Penn state community take? Our administrators failed us... beyond that, why should "we" get the finger pointed our way? You are talkingto people who had as much to do with this as you did... nothing.

    getmyjive11

  • PSUjosh11 said...

    Thanks for the insight.

    For all you posters that can't stand to type the words Penn State/PSU, or whatever, blame the school all you want but at the end of the day if any of this is true, it appears that this goes much deeper than PSU. Call me a homer all you want but we're talking about a state wide coverup over possibly multiple decades encompassing law enforcement officials, state legislators, governor's, etc. Could I be grasping at straws on this? Sure, but if any of this is true, PSU isn't the only fall guy in this - the entire state of PA would be deemed corrupt and a disgrace to the entire U.S.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read somewhere that the current governor was in charge of the "investigation" when this came to light years back. Anyone confirm, or correct this?

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  • fishdiddy said...

    Would it seriously make you feel better if there were a bunch more fall guys. Would you feel like you shared the burden like a slice of pie? Wake up.

    Like already mentioned, it would look even worse if there are many more fall guys involved that have association with or separate grom PSU. The damage has been done to PSU and it's reputation so that is what it is. The fact that there's potentially state legislators/officials involved in this is even more disturbing.

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  • michagain said...

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read somewhere that the current governor was in charge of the "investigation" when this came to light years back. Anyone confirm, or correct this?

    That's correct. Tom Corbett was the attorney general that got this investigation rolling and assigned one state trooper to the investigation. On top of that, he continued to donate money/take donations from The Second Mile and other interested parties while this investigated was on going.

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  • michagain said...

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read somewhere that the current governor was in charge of the "investigation" when this came to light years back. Anyone confirm, or correct this?

    Some people believe Governor Corbett, who appointed some of the PSU board members and who technically is a member of the BOT himself, orchestrated PSU's acceptance of the NCAA sanctions to try to make the matter go away as quickly and quietly as possible because of questions surrounding his handling of the grand jury investigation and close ties to Second Mile. Here is the paragraph included in his Wikipedia bio regarding the scandal:

    "Corbett convened a grand jury in 2009 to investigate longstanding allegations of child sexual abuse by Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky. The grand jury uncovered evidence of criminal misconduct, and a 40-count indictment against Sandusky was issued in 2011, ultimately leading to Sandusky's criminal conviction in 2012. Corbett has been criticized for the three year time span between the grand jury investigation and Sandusky's indictment, and for his gubernatorial staff approving a $3 million grant to Sandusky's Second Mile charity for children, which, according to the grand jury findings, served as a repository for potential sex-abuse victims. Former FBI Director Louis Freeh's report on the Penn State scandal did not fault Corbett's handling of the Sandusky case."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Corbett

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 8/11/2012 at 11:16 AM

    MrWoodson

  • So is this going to start leaking out soon or is it months/years away?

    This post was edited by Coastal Eer on 8/11/2012 at 11:30 AM

    Coastal Eer

  • Coastal Eer said...

    So is this going to start leaking out soon or is it months/years away?

    The lovely Sara Ganim of the Patriot News will have an article come out tomorrow.

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    No, it would be much sadder. But how much of a burden should the Penn state community take? Our administrators failed us... beyond that, why should "we" get the finger pointed our way? You are talkingto people who had as much to do with this as you did... nothing.

    I know you didn't have anything to do with it but in the end any organization or person that had anything to do with this is totally in the wrong. I'm not saying nuke penn st i just think its silly to try and act like other peoples culpability diminishes the higher ups at your universities fault or makes it somehow better to get the finger pointing multiple directions instead of one. Anyone and unfortunately any entity associated with the coverup deserves total blame. Of course there is going to be collateral damage for your university. It is unreasonable to expect a flawed soceity to act 100 percent correctly. There is always collateral damage in instances of extreme shit.

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    fishdiddy

  • fishdiddy said...

    I know you didn't have anything to do with it but in the end any organization or person that had anything to do with this is totally in the wrong. I'm not saying nuke penn st i just think its silly to try and act like other peoples culpability diminishes the higher ups at your universities fault or makes it somehow better to get the finger pointing multiple directions instead of one. Anyone and unfortunately any entity associated with the coverup deserves total blame. Of course there is going to be collateral damage for your university. It is unreasonable to expect a flawed soceity to act 100 percent correctly. There is always collateral damage in instances of extreme shit.

    Just because there is collateral damage doesn't make it right. And it doesn't mean that me or any other PSU fan/staff/alumni/student needs to be subject to ridicule.

    getmyjive11

  • so I just read Sara Ganim's article and it was a whole lot of nothing groundbreaking or new.

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