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AUVTM said...
I am not pissed It seems perfectly fine with me to string a kid along for over a year. Then keep him on the hook with empty promises and illegal enticements. Especially when we all know the kids heart is being ripped out by a process that gave him dreams of playing for a premeir program only to cast him aside when it became clear his value not what it once was. Everything is totally above boards there iyam. Rtr
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RedandBlackDawg said...
The kid states in the article, that they are gonna get me a job. I was under the impression that if they, meaning Alabama got him a job, since he is not on their roster, that that would constitute an illegal enticement of that recruit. Like in, an "illegal benefit". What category of recruitment does a practice like this constitute anyway, "Stock piling future recruit, with illegal enticements?" I am not by any means a legal expert and certainly not as savvy as Saban is at getting around the rules, but isn't this a violation? Did Saban make a promise and it comes back to bite him in the butt on this one? I am sure he did not think this kid would actually reveal that information. Now what will probably be said, in a half A** attempt at a correction, is I errr, meant to say, I wuz gonna get a job and Saban is gonna give me a letter saying he will sign me in 2013. Young man, if you, your parents and that stupid coach you have in high school have any brains at all, run , and run as fast as your rehabbing knee can take you, as far away from this mess as you can. If necessary, go to a JUCO, and get a head start on some of your studies, because otherwise, you are now wasting at least a year of your life.
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maize&blue21 said...
This kid is stupid if he actually believes he is going to Alabama next year. Slime ball of a coach too, you offered that kid a scholarship you don't cut him loose because someone better wants to commit. You wonder why Bama is so high up in the rankings because they are never limited on scholarships and just cut players to make room for better players.
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RedandBlackDawg said...
The kid states in the article, that they are gonna get me a job. I was under the impression that if they, meaning Alabama got him a job, since he is not on their roster, that that would constitute an illegal enticement of that recruit. Like in, an "illegal benefit". What category of recruitment does a practice like this constitute anyway, "Stock piling future recruit, with illegal enticements?" I am not by any means a legal expert and certainly not as savvy as Saban is at getting around the rules, but isn't this a violation? Did Saban make a promise and it comes back to bite him in the butt on this one? I am sure he did not think this kid would actually reveal that information. Now what will probably be said, in a half A** attempt at a correction, is I errr, meant to say, I wuz gonna get a job and Saban is gonna give me a letter saying he will sign me in 2013. Young man, if you, your parents and that stupid coach you have in high school have any brains at all, run , and run as fast as your rehabbing knee can take you, as far away from this mess as you can. If necessary, go to a JUCO, and get a head start on some of your studies, because otherwise, you are now wasting at least a year of your life.
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D&ST said...
Here are the rules regarding employment of a prospect:
13.2.3.2 Prior to Completion of Senior Year—Athletics Award Winners. An institution may employ a prospective student-athlete who is an athletics award winner in any department outside of intercollegiate athletics, provided the employment is arranged through normal institutional employment procedures (e.g., local newspaper, bulletin board listings) and without the intervention of any member of the institution’s coaching staff. Any compensation received by the prospective student-athlete must be for work actually performed and commensurate with the going rate for such services in the locale. For purposes of this bylaw, institutional recreation programs, even if reporting to the athletics director, may be considered outside the intercollegiate athletics department. An institution may hire a prospective student-athlete, who is an athletics award winner, in its recreation programs, only if recreation and facility managers and no intercollegiate coaches are involved with the hiring and supervision of these employees. (Adopted: 4/29/04 effective 8/1/04) 13.2.3.3 After Completion of Senior Year. An institution may arrange for employment or employ any prospective student-athlete (regardless of athletics award winner status), provided the employment does not begin prior to the completion of the prospective student-athlete’s senior year in high school. (See Bylaw 13.12.1.5.1.)
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maize&blue21 said...
Did you read the article? He will be taking school of and football off for one year, Saban's excuse come next January will be "I don't think you are ready for D-1 football yet and since you didn't play this last year you will be buried in the depth chart, you can try to walk-on if you want"
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gatider12 said...
by-law 13.2.3.3 After Completion of Senior Year. An institution may arrange for employment or employ any pro- spective student-athlete (regardless of athletics award winner status), provided the employment does not begin prior to the completion of the prospective student-athlete’s senior year in high school.
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mriderblue12 said...
As far as I'm concerned, if it's not an egregious lie (Tressel), or a ridiculous payment (Cammy Cam) anything is fair game. Over-signing is only an issue for the B1G because they refuse to man up and get competitive.
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MrWoodson said...
I'm pretty sure this rule is intended to allow schools to assist players in obtaining summer employment at fair market compensation while they are part of the program. I don't think it is intended to allow schools to find jobs for and effectively "park" extra recruits they cannot fit on their roster until a scholarship opens up. Maybe it is a loophole and can be used that way, but it's the first I have ever heard of it.
This post was edited by ASBamaguy on 1/16/2012 at 11:33 AM
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Nicolae said...
I think the kid doesn't have a problem because he doesn't really realize what is going on here yet. When it dawns on him finally that he will never go to Bama, he is gonna be pissed.
BTW, so the "Kirby RAID!!!!" this year consists of one solid OT, one solid LB, a drastically overrated CB and a slot WR/scatback? Wow, Bama really does just have their way in GA...
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Spartan-Pride said...
Few would trade their souls for your success, those that would hail from the SEC. You realize alot of schools could do what Alabama does, right? They just aren't willing to sacrifice decency for a couple extra football victories a year.
Congrats on the title, Bama. Doesn't mean anything to anyone with a brain outside of Bama.
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Spartan-Pride said...
Few would trade their souls for your success, those that would hail from the SEC. You realize alot of schools could do what Alabama does, right? They just aren't willing to sacrifice decency for a couple extra football victories a year.
Congrats on the title, Bama. Doesn't mean anything to anyone with a brain outside of Bama.
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Spartan-Pride said...
Few would trade their souls for your success, those that would hail from the SEC. You realize alot of schools could do what Alabama does, right? They just aren't willing to sacrifice decency for a couple extra football victories a year.
Congrats on the title, Bama. Doesn't mean anything to anyone with a brain outside of Bama.
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gatider12 said...
explain the decency part, please. Would it be more decent to pull his offer? What would your team do? Walk us through it. I have often wondered how to approach this. What do we do when so many kids commit later and yet some commit early? Do we favor early commits over early later ones? Is that decent? Do we honor commits in the way that we offer? In other words, we offered this kid before another?
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