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100% agree. I think ND should have the equal "say" as every other school in the FBS playoff.

God, I hope all the fans I've seen wearing Alabama shirts aren't actual alums...poor argument, you're better than that.

I can pretty much guaranty you that anybody you have seen in an Alabama shirt is not an alum. ND has a large sidewalk fan base but I don't think it's anywhere near where it used to be 10, 20, 30 years ago.

It's easy to just say that but I don't know what evidence supports that argument.

+1 sir. Very well stated

So, the fact that that little school in South Bend consistently is #1 or #2 as Forbes "College Football's Most Valuable Teams" does not support that argument?

I posted this on my own board, but Texas will never have the power Notre Dame has...they think so, but they are a very closed university...Texas-centric. If you look at their student population, it is comprised almost entirely of Texas natives..so is their football program. They're more Texans than they are Americans. They were smart not wishing to join the PAC, and so are we...our power players are capable of sharing for the good of the conference.

Notre Dame, on the other hand has more than a century reaching across the country to admit students, and their FB program has always drawn from all regions and states. Notre Dame is a national university in very sense of the word.

Not a valid argument darling.

ND has ties to the Vatican....Everything on this planet goes through the Vatican...Soooooooo....ND is backed by the most valuable and powerful entity on the planet...Lucifer.....Hey it is what it is......

It's completely a valid argument. Texas is making more money and winning more games than ND and it's not even close. Texas has plenty of power.

It doesn't matter where the people are in the country who watch the games, it matters how many do.

Notre Dame should be involved in the discussion because of their position in the BCS. There is no denying that. Of course, their opinion matters, but it really doesn't matter anymore than the 40 or so other BCS programs that don't have a shot of being ranked high enough to gain entrance in a playoff.

Remember, there were people in the 1950's saying that eventually Army and Navy would be back to prominence as well. I would love for tradition's sake to see Notre Dame have a top 10 program again sometime, but it is looking more and more less likely with every year. Their issue is so far beyond making better coaching hires to even scratch the surface at the moment.

Step back and look at the full picture.....Texas has power because of the state of Texas..and the state OWNS UT. Notre Dame is small, and powerful enough to challenge a Goliath.

Notre Dame draws a large national TV viewing audience...half of the all time most watched CFB games in the history of TV involve Notre Dame (and USC)

But for my post on this. I mean whether they have the biggest brand or not should not really matter, even if they want it to. Notre Dame isn't coming back. This isn't the old days where the big northern teams could recruit against Alabama and no one else in the south, the recruiting base is here and kids don't ahve to leave home any more, and that "National Brand" doesn't mean crap to kids in the south(Don't try and bring up one example showing otherwise, I live here I know). What does all of this mean you might ask, that as much as people want them to come back, it won't happen. Notre Dame lives off that national brand financially and recruiting wise, and one of those two wheels has fallen off.

My God...don't choke on your ignorance. How do you think whatever church you come from, got the manuscripts that were faithfully copied and guarded by priests and monks through the ages (also saved from the vandals in the sack of Rome), that have been translated by all Christians as the Bible? Because of the Church, God's word was saved for all to interpret.

You have no idea what you're talking about...as for Mary, we view her in the same light Our Lord did...before His death, He thought of her at the end, and entrusted her care to the apostle he loved the most.