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How would you feel if the US..

  • went into a Latin American or African country and built them a soccer stadium with American workers and Ameican-made materials in exchange for a trade agreement?

    I'm watching a CONCACAF Champions League came between an MLS team and a team from Costa Rica and Costa Rica has a brand new national stadium funded and built entirely by China.

    This post was edited by BamaLivesFootba on 7/31/2012 at 9:34 PM

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  • We do stuff similar to that all the time.

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  • Yeah... I remember a story a number of years back about the Taliban using the soccer stadium we built for them in Afganastan to perform public executions.

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  • JP4UNC said...

    We do stuff similar to that all the time.

    No we don't, at least not anymore and no where near the level China is doing it.

    This is "soft-power" politics. China is investing massively in Africa and other third world counties. In exchange for some "goodwill and friendship" China expects oil contracts, bananas, and eventually military bases.

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  • I wouldn't care because it's soccer

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  • OmegaBuckeye said...

    Yeah... I remember a story a number of years back about the Taliban using the soccer stadium we built for them in Afganastan to perform public executions.

    At least it's being used.

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  • Nah, we would never do that. We would have no problem paying for it, but as you know it wouldn't be "fair" to use US goods or workers.

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  • We give far more in "aid" to these places than the cost of a soccer stadium. 35 billion in total foreign aid, just last year.

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  • I would have no problem with it.

    Rivver

  • China does this all the time with the poor countries in Southeast Asia.

    "You weren't doing anything with all the timber in your forest, right Laos? How would you like a freshly paved national highway system?"

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  • That's the point.

    Would you rather just give aid money to countries or use the method China is using?

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  • Makes a ton of sense from china's perspective.

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  • RabbitSC said...

    "You weren't doing anything with all the timber in your forest, right Laos? How would you like a freshly paved national highway system?"

    Way off topic, but there's a spinoff conversation right there about the importance of FSC certification.

    But most Americans have no idea what it is or why it matters...smh.

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  • MsnBama said...

    Way off topic, but there's a spinoff conversation right there about the importance of FSC certification.

    But most Americans have no idea what it is or why it matters...smh.

    Forestry Service.... Something?

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    That's the point.

    Would you rather just give aid money to countries or use the method China is using?

    We used to do what China is doing.

    Rivver

  • Rivver said...

    We used to do what China is doing.

    Pardon my ignorance on the topic,but would you please expound upon this?

    To potential allies in trade?war?colonies?

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    That's the point.

    Would you rather just give aid money to countries or use the method China is using?

    It is something that certainly needs to be looked into. What is the better return on investment. Though the way our gov't works, is that a committee will have to be formed, in order to form a sub-committee to look into this. The aforementioned sub-committee would then request congress for funds to give a private corp the job of figuring this out. The corp that receives those funds would undoubtedly have been one that donated heavily to one or more of the members of the sub-committee, and will of course use a portion of the new funds received to donate back to those members. Would cost approx. 40 million dollars to figure out what direction would best go, but that would only be a suggestion which would in turn be changed here and there when it got back to congress, where most likely it reverts back to the status quo, with the small possibility of some minor, near meaningless change.

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  • Wasn't Costa Rica's old stadium the one that was like asphalt covered by the cheap turf you put in reptile aquariums?

    If so, good for them.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Forestry Service.... Something?

    Forest Stewardship Council, yes.

    It's another conversation entirely. American's like to complain about what China is doing but fail to see how we've given them that power through our own behavior.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    It is something that certainly needs to be looked into. What is the better return on investment. Though the way our gov't works, is that a committee will have to be formed, in order to form a sub-committee to look into this. The aforementioned sub-committee would then request congress for funds to give a private corp the job of figuring this out. The corp that receives those funds would undoubtedly have been one that donated heavily to one or more of the members of the sub-committee, and will of course use a portion of the new funds received to donate back to those members. Would cost approx. 40 million dollars to figure out what direction would best go, but that would only be a suggestion which would in turn be changed here and there when it got back to congress, where most likely it reverts back to the status quo, with the small possibility of some minor, near meaningless change.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Would cost approx. 40 million dollars to figure out what direction would best go, but that would only be a suggestion which would in turn be referred to a second committee and eventually another sub committee, changed here and there, returned to the original sub committee where further small changes are made before getting back to congress, where most likely it reverts back to the status quo, with the small possibility of some minor, near meaningless change.

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