The Blue Board

See, you make too many assumptions. I've read the Bible. I've studied it. I've dug deep into what it says and has said historically, through its translation. I disagree that it says same sex relations are an abomination. It just isn't in there. Your Christian "doctrine" says homosexuality is an abomination. The Bible doesn't - and it never has.

Quit faking it man. Romans, the most read book in the entire Bible, and in the FIRST chapter.

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

The due penalty for their error is death.

Come on guys, let's not make this some lame argument where three guys argue. The guy who thinks Christianity is nice but not viable, the fake Bible scholar who doesn't know jack and the Bible believer suckered into talking about it.

Dude's studied the Bible. Don't step to him.

Some of it was writtern as much as 8 thousand years ago! Job was most likely written before Abraham.

Confirmed? Come on man, even churches that execute those rituals realize they are not salvific.

The stories in there are BS to you because you do not believe.

What I meant by ignorant was your assertion that the Bible is hardly relevant today because it's so old. The Bible states it is God breathed. The Bible also states that God still interprets scripture through revelation through the Holy Spirit so that it remains relevant.

Yes, disease is temporal. Humans in our emotional and psychological response to only being able to see our ~70 year life span infinitely overvalue it. Someone who is born deformed, retarded, handicapped, etc are experiencing a temporal ailment God designed for the eternal good of that individual and those they would come in contact with. When asked why a man was born blind, was it he who sinned or his parents Jesus said he was born blind so that the works of God would become known.

That and everything else sounds like BS to you because you do not believe. You are a classic churched unbeliever who believes they know the gig is up and Christians are just mostly nice, brainwashed people.

The "dude" you speak of has all but proven himself to be a moron and yet you take his word over the Bible. Shows that you have zero belief in it being what it claims so why even share?

Not surprised one the board's outspoken liberals came in to the conversation to take the side of the "faggot" wielding redneck over the Bible.

Those stories are BS because they are impossible. Again why has only 1 person been able to split the sea ever in the history of earth? Does the Bible explain that?

And it's funny how the Bible is interpreted differently by every generation. I would be interested to know what the Bible believing people had to say about "It also states humans are fearfully and wonderfully made and without error." when they were enslaving blacks and such.

And yeh man you are right I don't believe. I am going to live my life not based off a book. I live a moral life, I am a nice person, if God wants to send me to hell because I didn't go to church or believe stories from a book, then God isn't the great thing people make him out to be.

Also funny how the Bible talks about forgiveness, but certain things can't be forgiven. A ridiculous double standard.

And I would argue Christians are brainwashed essentially. What makes their views, or their bible any more legit than any other religious book or document. Why do Christians believe the Bible but not the Qu'ran?

Some of your points are surprising and I talk to unbelievers a lot. Your first point is just a strange question. OBVIOUSLY the answer is that in God's chosen people trying to evade Pharaoh they became trapped against a sea and so He split it for them. Why has that never been done again.............um, that situation didn't arise with that specific plan enacted by God.

Slavery is a touchy subject. The new testament discusses slaves by encouraging them to honor their master so as to soften their heart. Old testament has some giants of the faith as having owned slaves but they were said to be gracious masters. Taking care of their needs and honoring their service. Obviously abusive slave owners who claimed to be Christians were sinning and answered for that.

All can be forgiven except for disbelief in Christ. What do you refer to?

Because Christianity is the sole unique religion in the world. Every religion is man trying to perform for God and Christianity is man receiving a gift and entering into a relationship. It's messy and for those that don't believe it's confusing and infuriating sometimes, like I said I understand and respect where you are at.

You can not accept the fact that LGBTQ people are born that way because it conflicts with one,very small portion of your faith. This is te problem with taking the infallible,literalistic interpretation of the Bible. If even one word comes in question,there is this massive rationalization now matter how unnecessary or unintelligent it may seem. Just because there may be one thing wrong in the Bible doesn't take away from the power of your faith or the saving grace of JC.

This part I wanted to address specifically.....

And yeh man you are right I don't believe. I am going to live my life not based off a book. I live a moral life, I am a nice person, if God wants to send me to hell because I didn't go to church or believe stories from a book, then God isn't the great thing people make him out to be.

According to the Bible God made man for Himself and for mutual joy and relationship. Man sinned and turned away. Ran away even. God is Holy and therefore can not co-habitate with sin. So man was lost forever except for forgivenness of sin through the shedding of blood which is explained in Hebrews. He sent Christ to be the eternal atonement for sins making a way back to Himself for sinners.

Jesus basically came, said He was God and that He had come to save us and all you have to do is accept that. He gave up Heaven for earth to come after you. It's pretty beautifully shown in some regards by the movie Taken. It would be like at the end of the movie Liam Neeson reaches out his hand and the daughter yells, "The fact that I have to come to you after all this means you aren't as good a dad as you think!" and then storming out.

The problem for fsufsu is that he has bought in to what his leaders have added to the Scriptures. The Scripture he quoted has been twisted by so many to mean something it never meant. The people doing so are guilty of doing what they were warned against in Revelation 22:18.

Are you really still in here? Ilovelamp showed you a scripture that explicitly should have led to you bowing out and then you posted scriptures that disproved not one ounce of my point.

I and my teachers have added nothing. How does one even come to the point of assuming anything other than God would believe homosexuality is a sin. Humans are designed to reproduce only heterosexually.

Key word was "that I read".

Read Hebrews and Romans. Beautiful books that explain about 90% of Christianity I'd say.