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11 months ago

So just to make sure I'm hearing this right...when we pull up the rankings and team rankings we are looking at the composite rankings immediately?
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buttesnake said...
So you're saying Green is a Michigan lock? Hell yes!
#1 RB, bitches! Suck it!

Just remember when he commits that you got a kid OSU passed on.
#scraps
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callen05 said...
For each player's rankings that get lowered by the inclusion of ESPN's rankings, another gets a bump. It all evens out .
Composite is for the better and if there is still an issue, then you can form your own opinion on who has a better class.

That is how I see it. With this we multiplied the number of analyst who have watched and graded a player and the rankings should even out. I like it.
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devidee said...
Just remember when he commits that you got a kid OSU passed on.
#scraps

He had his chance and said thanks but no thanks.
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devidee said...
Just remember when he commits that you got a kid OSU passed on.
#scraps
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11 months ago

I just like how people were acting like this was going to completely change recruiting. New feature coming out!!!!!!!!! Can't wait!!!!
Then we basically just took rankings from the four popular site and averaged them. Thanks!
I like it. Don't get me wrong. Just isn't a ground breaking moment or new idea. Posters have been doing this manually for years for their recruits.
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11 months ago

Jeff4SC said...
How do you filter it to just see the 247 rankings? I could careless where the other sites have prospects rated.

these rankings could easily be considered offensive
*QB-Cody Thomas isnt A top 10 talent
*RB-Zaire Williams looks deserving of 4star status
*WR-Robert Foster a 5 star or simply best the Class of 13 has to offer ?
*TE-Greg Taboada top 10 TE
*OT-Golson isnt a top 5 & its doubtful he should be among the top 20-25.
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11 months ago

JC Shurburtt said...
The truth is ....

i could care less as a Bama fan about Derrick Green's ranking. i just hope Tenpenny & Jones ink on NSD w/ the Tide .
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JC Shurburtt said...
The only fair way to do it is to equally weigh everyone's rankings and ratings IMO, outliers and all. The outliers will be fun to track moving forward.

Ok. But now that this is done, can you guys please rank the B10 recruiters for us? We can't seem to come to an agreement.
http://247sports.com/Board/30/Rank-the-Big-Ten-Recruiters-11078633/1
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JC Shurburtt said...
The only fair way to do it is to equally weigh everyone's rankings and ratings IMO, outliers and all. The outliers will be fun to track moving forward.

The process of detecting statistical outliers and downweighting them on an individual (by player) basis IS fair. The weights wouldn't be static for any one ranking service. The process is referred to as the outlier detection and downweighting (ODD) procedure, and it is utilized with both parametric and nonparametric statistical tests. While there is no testing being done here, the ranking procedure could still benefit from ODD.
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I think the composite's are an interesting idea but I choose to only give real credence to 247's rankings. Scout has too many kids not truly evaluated, Rivals has the Mike Farrell issue and ESPN doesn't evaluate LA at all. They have Chris Taylor as a top 10 player in the state for god's sake and Josh Boutte as a low 3* and like the 60th ranked OG. Absolutely ridiculous. Won't even get into perhaps the top player in the state in Tredavious White. They have Kendell Beckwith #15 in the country. Sorry but I refuse to consider anything with their rankings involved. They're horrible. Their inclusion voids any good that the composite rankings could have. Just my opinion. I'll continue to trust the one site that actually makes an effort to go to LA and scout the talent there. That's 247.
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buttesnake said...
So you're saying Green is a Michigan lock? Hell yes!
#1 RB, bitches! Suck it!

Wait so he didnt commit yesterday, strange thought that was a lock
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MrWoodson said...
Ok. But now that this is done, can you guys please rank the B10 recruiters for us? We can't seem to come to an agreement.
http://247sports.com/Board/30/Rank-the-Big-Ten-Recruiters-11078633/1

Anyone who isn't an idiotic homer can tell you who it is, and it ain't Hoke
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Jeff4SC said...
So just to make sure I'm hearing this right...when we pull up the rankings and team rankings we are looking at the composite rankings immediately?

There aren't team rankings based on the 247Sports ratings, they are only based on the composite ratings.

This post was edited by Rivver on 7/30/2012 at 2:16 PM
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CMXI said...
We have nearly twice as many 4/5*s as you. Every single team in the top 10 has more 4/5*s than you. You have a few elite players, but 3 elite players do not a #1 class make. On top of that, even if you didn't have those kickers, USC still has more 5*s than you, and twice as many 4*s.
There is no world in which Auburn is the #1 class this year, kickers or not.

Kickers are worth more than your crappy five stars.
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Rivver said...
There aren't team rankings based on the 247Sports ratings, they are only based on the composite ratings.

Exactly. I like that this info is compiled for me (so I no longer have to laboriously do it on my own spreadsheet), but I'd like to also see the 247-only team rankings.
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Rivver said...
There aren't team rankings based on the 247Sports ratings, they are only based on the composite ratings.

That is very gay
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11 months ago

ESPN has Jaylon Smith behind Matthew Thomas... Thats all you need to know about them.
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NDPhilly said...
ESPN has Jaylon Smith behind Matthew Thomas... Thats all you need to know about them.

Yea....I'm not a big fan of this at all.
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buttesnake said...
This.
Basically 247 seems to be emphasizing the composite rankings over their own. I'd rather the focus be on 247 and their evaluations, and have the composite stuff relegated to a supplemental position.

247 rankings should be emphasized on home pages.
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Rivver said...
There aren't team rankings based on the 247Sports ratings, they are only based on the composite ratings.

^^^^This better be a big line of BS^^^*
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CMXI said...
We have nearly twice as many 4/5*s as you. Every single team in the top 10 has more 4/5*s than you. You have a few elite players, but 3 elite players do not a #1 class make. On top of that, even if you didn't have those kickers, USC still has more 5*s than you, and twice as many 4*s.
There is no world in which Auburn is the #1 class this year, kickers or not.

Do you realize who you're talking to?
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Dutch2 said...
Do you realize who you're talking to?

Judging by the "Kickers are worth more than your five-stars" comment, I'm going to go with Silly Homers for $800, Alex.
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CptAUmerica21 said...
Kickers are worth more than your crappy five stars.

Good one, chuckles.
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^^^^This better be a big line of BS^^^*

It's not.
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