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I still like this 16 team format

  • All conference champions and 5 at large picks with no more than 2 from any one conference.

    1) Kansas St
    16) Arkansas St

    8) Oklahoma
    9) Stanford

    5) Georgia
    12) Rutgers

    4) Alabama
    13) Boise St

    3) Notre Dame
    14) Kent St

    6) Florida St
    11) La Tech

    7) Clemson
    10) Nebraska

    2) Oregon
    15) Tulsa

    BetterOff ●

  • BetterOff said...

    All conference champions and 5 at large picks with no more than 2 from any one conference.

    1) Kansas St
    16) Arkansas St

    8) Oklahoma
    9) Stanford

    5) Georgia
    12) Rutgers

    4) Alabama
    13) Boise St

    3) Notre Dame
    14) Kent St

    6) Florida St
    11) La Tech

    7) Clemson
    10) Nebraska

    2) Oregon
    15) Tulsa

    How many regular season games do we get?

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    DrStache

  • No more than 2 teams from 1 conference is dumb.

    Stouds1 ●

  • Mr.Stache said...

    How many regular season games do we get?

    I'd say go back to 11 and do away with CCG's. That would leave 2 teams playing 15 games and those 2 teams usually already play 14.

    I just like the idea of every team having a shot.

    BetterOff ●

  • Stouds1 said...

    No more than 2 teams from 1 conference is dumb.

    Maybe. But it keeps the playoff balanced.

    Why should more than 2 teams from a conference deserve a shot?

    BetterOff ●

  • I think 8 is plenty. At most 12 (give top 4 seeds initial byes).

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    psubills62

  • Stouds1 said...

    No more than 2 teams from 1 conference is dumb.

    If there was no limit, this is what you could have based on the current standings. I just don't see this generating anymore interest that Alabama/LSU in the BCSCG. If we are going to allow this to happen, then just stay with what we have, IMO. I like a little diversity and the bigger the format, the more that it allows for.

    1) Kansas St
    16) Arkansas St

    8) Texas A&M
    9) Florida St

    5) Georgia
    12) Rutgers

    4) Alabama
    13) Boise St

    3) Notre Dame
    14) Kent St

    6) Florida
    11) La Tech

    7) LSU
    10) Nebrasks

    2) Oregon
    15) Tulsa

    BetterOff ●

  • psubills62 said...

    I think 8 is plenty. At most 12 (give top 4 seeds initial byes).

    I agree, if we are not giving every conference champion a shot. I just like the idea of Utah St (or a team like that) starting the season with a prayer.

    BetterOff ●

  • 16 is too much and unnesessary

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    wutang148713

  • BetterOff said...

    Maybe. But it keeps the playoff balanced.

    Why should more than 2 teams from a conference deserve a shot?

    B/c more than 2 teams from a conference could be one of the best 16. If you want to give everyone a shot, and get "more interest", then the rule is fine. If you want the best 16 to play, then the rule is counter-intuitive. Do you really believe that between LSU, UF, USCe, and TAMU that none of them are top #16?

    This post was edited by Stouds1 on 11/12/2012 at 1:26 PM

    Stouds1 ●

  • BetterOff said...

    I agree, if we are not giving every conference champion a shot. I just like the idea of Utah St (or a team like that) starting the season with a prayer.

    Absolutely.

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    psubills62

  • Autobids should only go to conferences with at least 12 teams and a CCG. All other teams must earn their way in via at-large bids. Leagues with 8-10 teams and no CCG should not get the same treatment as leagues with 12-16 teams and a CCG.

    MrWoodson

  • Stouds1 said...

    B/c more than 2 teams from a conference could be one of the best 16. If you want to give everyone a shot, and get "more interest", then the rule is fine. If you want the best 16 to play, then the rule is counter-intuitive. Do you really believe that between LSU, UF, USCe, and TAMU that none of them are top #16?

    I think there is a good chance that 3 of them are. South Carolina? No.

    BetterOff ●

  • MrWoodson said...

    Autobids should only go to conferences with at least 12 teams and a CCG. All other teams must earn their way in via at-large bids. Leagues with 8-10 teams and no CCG should not get the same treatment as leagues with 12-16 teams and a CCG.

    I see what you are getting at, but leagues that have 10 teams and play everyone don't need a conference championship game if everyone is already playing everyone.

    BetterOff ●

  • BetterOff said...

    I see what you are getting at, but leagues that have 10 teams and play everyone don't need a conference championship game if everyone is already playing everyone.

    We are talking autobids. And conferences are getting bigger. Why should a conference with eight teams get one autobid just like a conference with 14 teams? If you want, let conferences with less than 12 teams play each other for an autobid. So the first week of December, while the B10, ACC, SEC and P12 are playing CCGs, let the WAC champion play the MWC champion for an autobid. And the Sun Belt champion can play the B12 champion for an autobid. There should be some minimum requirement to receiving an autobid more than simply being the best team in an 8-team conference. You only have to be better than seven other teams. That is the equivalent of winning a division in a larger conference.

    Edit: Also, if you are going with a 16-team bracket, I would cap it at 3 teams from any one conference. If you are the fourth best team in your league, I can guarantee you are not the best team in the country.

    This post has been edited 6 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 11/12/2012 at 2:51 PM

    MrWoodson

  • OP will always be full R-word

    LScootU ●

  • LScootU said...

    OP will always be full R-word

    Twice in one year. Both in Louisiana.

    Play

    Touchdown, Alabama!

    TJ Yeldon scores a touchdown on a screen pass from AJ McCarron to beat the LSU Tigers on 11/4/2012.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/Gkem6p-naVg

    BetterOff ●

  • BetterOff said...

    I think there is a good chance that 3 of them are. South Carolina? No.

    Ok, so you are not in favor of the best teams playing in the playoffs. Got it. Sounds reasonable.

    Stouds1 ●

  • Stouds1 said...

    Ok, so you are not in favor of the best teams playing in the playoffs. Got it. Sounds reasonable.

    I am being a realist. Well, besides the realistic chance of a 16 team playoff anyway. What I want doesn't matter.

    To get everyone to come to an agreement, you have to make sure that everyone or at least all the power conferences have a piece of the pie and have a chance to equally have a piece of the pie.

    In a 4-team playoff, I am not for a restricting the number of teams in a conference to 1, but I think 2 is reasonable and something that everyone can come to an agreement on.

    It's either not going to happen or something like this is still 15-20 years from having a chance to it's really just for something to talk about.

    BetterOff ●

  • wu-tang said...

    16 is too much and unnesessary

    16 is the only way it's ever a true ncaa championship. every conference has to be represented for the ncaa to sanction a champion.

    roger huerta ●

  • roger huerta said...

    16 is the only way it's ever a true ncaa championship. every conference has to be represented for the ncaa to sanction a champion.

    This has nothing to do with the NCAA. And the farther away from it we keep them, the more credibility it will have.

    MrWoodson

  • If we are going to 16, then BCS leagues need to break away.

    MAC, WAC, MWC, Sunbelt, etc. back to their own division. No way they deserve an automatic bid. I also don't think BCS teams should be allowed to play them.

    Think if SEC, ACC, B1G, Big XII, PAC, and Big East only play each other OOC. There would be much less controversy and the playoffs would probably be fine a 8 (12 max).

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    MrBlonde

  • Mr. Blonde said...

    If we are going to 16, then BCS leagues need to break away.

    MAC, WAC, MWC, Sunbelt, etc. back to their own division. No way they deserve an automatic bid. I also don't think BCS teams should be allowed to play them.

    Think if SEC, ACC, B1G, Big XII, PAC, and Big East only play each other OOC. There would be much less controversy and the playoffs would probably be fine a 8 (12 max).

    If that happened, I would be good with that as well.

    I just think we have a certain number of teams in FBS and they all deserve a chance just like they do in basketball. With the current format, a non-AQ school has to be undefeated or just have one loss for 2 or 3 years, then go undefeated again just to get into the discussion.

    BetterOff ●

  • Mr. Blonde said...

    If we are going to 16, then BCS leagues need to break away.

    MAC, WAC, MWC, Sunbelt, etc. back to their own division. No way they deserve an automatic bid. I also don't think BCS teams should be allowed to play them.

    if the bcs leagues broke away, you wouldn't have to have a 16 team playoff.

    also, wac is no longer after this year, so you won't have to worry about them anymore. only 10 fbs conferences in 2013.

    roger huerta ●

  • roger huerta said...

    if the bcs leagues broke away, you wouldn't have to have a 16 team playoff.

    also, wac is no longer after this year, so you won't have to worry about them anymore. only 10 fbs conferences in 2013.

    That would mean 6 at large!!!

    panic

    BetterOff ●

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