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Probably. But controlling isn't the same as taking away when it comes to guns IMO. If you have nothing to hide and really do want one for protection, hunting, etc. you probably won't mind going through a little more to get it

You just quoted Infowars.....all credibility is lost

You separate a culture from what it was built upon and this is what you get. We don't have a gun issue, we have a cultural one. Guns have been around for hundreds of years and this crap used to not happen. So we need to ask ourself why does this happen now, but not a hundred years ago? Guns aren't the variable.

People not taking responsibility for their actions and the social stigma that it's not okay to get help for your problems, in this case mental. What happens after a mass shooting? We blame the media or video games or music or the other kids at school... we rarely blame the parents or the aggressor themselves. Or if we do the latter, we immediately talk about what a terrible human being they are and how they've been a demon their entire lives and we hope they burn in hell... instead of, you know, looking back over all the years of them showing signs of having issues and not encouraging them to get help. Even worse, we make fun of this people as being "weak" and tell them to just man up. No, stop being in denial and a prideful asshole and tell them to do the adult thing and see someone about their problems.

That's what our culture issues are.

Society has always been relative. Your idea of what society used to be is a myth.

Lol. Okay then. I swear to god you will take any position so long as it disagrees with mine.

And society hasn't always been like this, there was a time when people didn't lock there doors etc. things weren't perfect but they weren't what they are now.

Be my guest, but remember this fact. If you outlaw guns the only people who will own them are outlaws themselves. We need a plan I agree, but completely taking away the ability to protect ones own family is not the answer. I have a beautiful family of five. What do you suggest I do when that lawless thug breaks in my home while my wife and precious children are sleeping? I don't think a sling shot is going to do it....

You probably should re-read my post.

Just once admit you are wrong. Society was much safer pre 1950 than today...that's a fact.

Because a couple hundred years ago it would take 30 minutes to fire off 30 rounds from a musket, not 20 seconds from a semi-automatic hand gun with an extended clip.

I will agree, militia language aside, that the second amendment protects your right to own a musket, regulation of anything else should be up for discussion.

Small magazines is absurd. How hard would it have been to shoot unarmed children with a revolver and a few speed loaders? Not hard. It's sad that gun haters will use this tragedy to further their agenda.

Murder rates and violent crime rates were much lower 50 years ago than they are now. However the 1970s saw a sharp increase in these types of crimes and violent crimes statistically peaked in the 1980's and have slowly declined since then.

I don't have the statistics on mass murder but I would have to believe it is much higher today than it has ever been. Just a guess on my part.

With the internet and social media being what it is today the news of any kind of violent crime travels very quickly and we are much more used to seeing news reports on these crimes.

Doesn't mean there isn't a terrible problem and something doesn't need to be done about it.

I own several guns myself but most are used for hunting.

Measures need to be taken to try and quell the violence. It is a very difficult situation and I do not pretend to have all the answers. I do know that change begins in the home and with the parents. Don't let young kids watch violent programs on television/movies. Don't let young kids play violent video games until they are old enough to separate the game from real world situations. Talk to your kids about right and wrong and leave no doubt that violence is wrong. I don't know where you go from there.

When was the last time a weapon prohibited by the assault weapons ban was actually used in a mass murder?

There may have been during this last event. All I read was handguns and a .223 rifle (assuming ar15), so this is an honest question.