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If 4 Super Conferences happend with 16 teams each

  • Who would the Pac 12 take?

    Boise, BYU, Nevada, Hawaii?

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    tigerblood

  • tigerblood said...

    Who would the Pac 12 take?

    Boise, BYU, Nevada, Hawaii?

    Unlv maybe

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    BillyEN4C

  • Bosie and BYU with a serious run at Oaklahoma and Texas.

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    Buck that

  • Buck that said...

    Bosie and BYU with a serious run at Oaklahoma and Texas.

    Yea I think they would have to try for those 2 before they looked elsewhere. But if the Big 12 expands I can't see Oklahoma or Texas leaving.

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    tigerblood

  • Buck that said...

    Bosie and BYU with a serious run at Oaklahoma and Texas.

    que? The Big 12 is everyday looking more like one of the 4 superconferences with both OU and UT firmly entrenched in them.

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    Canadianhorn

  • I'd think they'd have to try? I don't think it would work but it's all about money. My dumb ass can't even spell Oklahoma??

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  • There won't be a scenario in which everyone has to go to 16. SEC probably goes to 16, Big 12 may end up at 16 but MOST likely 14, and B1G MOST Likely stays at 14. Pac 12 may get pressure to go to 14 and it'd be BYU and Boise.

    Big 12 MOST likely adds FSU and Clemson then Notre Dame and GT.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    There won't be a scenario in which everyone has to go to 16. SEC probably goes to 16, Big 12 may end up at 16 but MOST likely 14, and B1G MOST Likely stays at 14. Pac 12 may get pressure to go to 14 and it'd be BYU and Boise.

    Big 12 MOST likely adds FSU and Clemson then Notre Dame and GT.

    The PAC12 is too smart to pick up Boise State. Outside of FB they have absolutely nothing going for them, they aren't in a good TV market, and have pretty much no following outside of Idaho other than a few bandwagon fans here and there. This is about money and BSU does not equal money.

    Sp4rt4ns

  • fsufsu said...

    There won't be a scenario in which everyone has to go to 16. SEC probably goes to 16, Big 12 may end up at 16 but MOST likely 14, and B1G MOST Likely stays at 14. Pac 12 may get pressure to go to 14 and it'd be BYU and Boise.

    Big 12 MOST likely adds FSU and Clemson then Notre Dame and GT.

    B1G only has 12 right now. I can see us expanding to 14 with maybe ND and a team like Syracuse or Pitt but I'm pretty pleased with the conference as it stands right now. I don't think expansion just for the sake of expansion is necessary right now.

    y2kMgrad

  • SDSU would be a better pickup for the PAC12 than BSU.

    Sp4rt4ns

  • y2kMgrad said...

    B1G only has 12 right now. I can see us expanding to 14 with maybe ND and a team like Syracuse or Pitt but I'm pretty pleased with the conference as it stands right now. I don't think expansion just for the sake of expansion is necessary right now.

    ND would never join the B1G.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    ND would never join the B1G.

    And that makes me very glad.

    Sp4rt4ns

  • fsufsu said...

    ND would never join the B1G.

    their loss.

    y2kMgrad

  • Wouldn't be shocked to see the PAC12 reach cross country and go to a pod system of scheduling, but there would be no point in expanding if the BCS playoffs only takes conference champions.

    Lets just assume the the SEC adds VT and UNC.

    BIG12 adds FSU, Clemson, Louisville, GT (ND is a possibility)

    BIG10 adds Syracuse, Pitt, Maryland, Rutgers/ Cincy (ND is a possibility)

    The PAC12 would likely first look at ND since ND likes being associated with USC and Stanford and ND recruits CA heavily after that you go after major media markets - Miami, Rutgers, UVA, Duke, BC.

    It is hard to fathom Miami, UVA, Duke, and even Rutgers/ UConn not finding a place.

    TrojanMindSC

  • tigerblood said...

    Who would the Pac 12 take?

    Boise, BYU, Nevada, Hawaii?

    None of them have the academics needed to join the Pac save maybe BYU.

    Football drives the bus but the college presidents own the bus line.

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    Under Review

  • Under Review said...

    None of them have the academics needed to join the Pac save maybe BYU.

    Football drives the bus but the college presidents own the bus line.

    The Hippies and the Trees would never agree to let in a religious school like BYU...just as they (supposedly) were against Baylor tagging along.....if that bogus talk about Texas and Ok joining the pac, and bringing their little brothers, had an ounce of truth.

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  • y2kMgrad said...

    their loss.

    Not really. You're just flaming.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    Not really. You're just flaming.

    IF ND were to join a conference It'd be either the B1G or the PAC...

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    PSUTE

  • PSUTE said...

    IF ND were to join a conference It'd be either the B1G or the PAC...

    That is actually entirely inaccurate. They are joining the B12. Anyone who says they will join the B1G throws up a red flag that they don't know.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    That is actually entirely inaccurate. They are joining the B12. Anyone who says they will join the B1G throws up a red flag that they don't know.

    We'll see, the B1G makes sense geographically, and because of the tie in between the B1G and the PAC, traditional rivalries can be maintained. IMO, they will remain independent as long as they have a seat at the table, they are their own brand...

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  • PSUTE said...

    We'll see, the B1G makes sense geographically, and because of the tie in between the B1G and the PAC, traditional rivalries can be maintained. IMO, they will remain independent as long as they have a seat at the table, they are their own brand...

    The Domers to the BIG-10 will never happen...too much bad blood. A ton of wealth and power in that university would have to die off first.

    Domers never forget a wrong done, just as they are loyal to those that stood by them.

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  • PSUTE said...

    We'll see, the B1G makes sense geographically, and because of the tie in between the B1G and the PAC, traditional rivalries can be maintained. IMO, they will remain independent as long as they have a seat at the table, they are their own brand...

    No, the B1G makes the least sense geographically. Notre Dame doesn't want anything to do with a regional entity. The reason they are joining the Big 12 is because it will cover the most land east/west/north/south of any conference. They are likely going to join the Big 12 with some major stipulations like they only have to play 6 conference games or something. It will take some real logistics to get them in but the Big 12 has a brilliant Commissioner coming in.

    They'll want to play their 6 intra-division teams, Texas or Oklahoma, maybe even just every other year, and then keep USC, UCLA, BC, Michigan and Navy on their schedules probably as best they can.

    You're just having your own thoughts.

    fsufsu

  • usctrojan1 said...

    The Domers to the BIG-10 will never happen...too much bad blood. A ton of wealth and power in that university would have to die off first.

    Domers never forget a wrong done, just as they are loyal to those that stood by them.

    ND and UT to the P12 (not soon, but eventually) makes a lot of sense on several levels. First, the P12 needs to move more games into the Eastern and Central time zones. Second, the P12 has adopted a regional network strategy which would be easy to adapt for ND and UT. One obvious downside is travel expense for non-revenue sports. Another is that UT and ND each are "bull-in-china-shop" headaches and both together would be a nightmare to manage. But I could easily see UT/ND/Ok/OkSt being a quad region in a 16-team P12. The four quad regions are easy to see, really:

    Midwest: Texas, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
    Southwest: Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
    West: USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford
    Northwest: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

    The biggest issue I see is that the West region would have by far the best media markets and the Northwest and Southwest would have the worst, but that probably could be handled by an agreement to share revenues. The agreement could even work in something to offset travel costs for the teams that have to travel the furthest. If I had to guess, this is the endgame UT and ND are looking at in the next 10 years or so.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 5/24/2012 at 11:48 AM

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  • They would love to have the following:

    PAC SIXTEEN

    Pacific: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington St., California, Stanford, USC & UCLA
    West: Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Arizona, Arizona St., Colorado & Utah

    But it sounds like it will be this:

    Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington St., California, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St., Colorado, Utah, ________, _________, __________ & __________.

    with the final four spots going to some variation of the following:
    BYU - pretty safe bet, solid academics, big audience, football tradition;
    Boise State - not so much, Johnny come lately but Peterson isn't going anywhere so neither is Boise, former Junior College academics aren't there;
    Air Force - service academy that makes a perfect geographic fit;
    Miami - assuming they get left without a chair in the next shuffle, which seems likely, obviously they would be football only, if you're Miami/Pac16 you also have to think about how playing 2/3 time zones apart affects the school/conference;
    Hawaii, UNLV, Houston, SMU

    hines011

  • Texas is a huge issue, culturally, in the PAC. Great school and I applaud them for the power they have built around them, but that would never fly in the PAC. I doubt Notre Dame would be a problem at all...we know them well.

    Too many strong and powerful universities for any one to be the top dog in the PAC. We share...Texas would only tolerate being #1 in whatever conference they belong to...THAT would cause major problems that could tear the conference apart. Not having that.

    This post was edited by usctrojan1 on 5/24/2012 at 11:05 AM

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